P500 Help With Diagnosis

futzin

futzin

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Sep 10, 2019
4,199
31,156
113
Kentucky
Ownership

  1. 500

  2. 520
Do I need to remove the steering box, or should I start by removing the inner tie rods, and inspecting?
 
  • Like
Reactions: NTCPrezJB
906UP

906UP

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Supporting Member
Club Contributor
Jul 6, 2017
14,307
135,775
113
da Yoop
Ownership

  1. 1000-3

  2. Talon X
I may have missed it if it was covered earlier..... have you checked the knuckle to see if it's bent, specifically where the tie rod attaches
 
futzin

futzin

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Sep 10, 2019
4,199
31,156
113
Kentucky
Ownership

  1. 500

  2. 520
Left inner steering arm bent at the ball (se pic)

View attachment 75373

This member had a hard hit at speed, damaging several components of his steering rack. He replaced.

My situation was different: pinched and stressed at full steering lock with force applied to steering wheel. Is this a pic of the inner tie rod? Could this be my issue?
 
lee

lee

Village Idiot
Lifetime Member
Club Contributor
Apr 4, 2013
2,390
13,544
113
Springfield Ohio
Ownership

  1. 500
Go here:

Order the CONN TUBE band and pull the boot to inspect.
The CONN TUBE band will allow you to reassemble the boot with out a full disassembly.
(band size is the same for the P500)
 
futzin

futzin

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Sep 10, 2019
4,199
31,156
113
Kentucky
Ownership

  1. 500

  2. 520
Go here:

Order the CONN TUBE band and pull the boot to inspect.
The CONN TUBE band will allow you to reassemble the boot with out a full disassembly.
(band size is the same for the P500)

Retracted the boot, the shaft is fine. That rear upper a-arm mount is bent more than first noticed.

Driver's side:
20231012 152551


Passenger side:
20231012 152529


Am I correct in thinking that it needs to be beaten back into alignment, then welded?
 
906UP

906UP

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Supporting Member
Club Contributor
Jul 6, 2017
14,307
135,775
113
da Yoop
Ownership

  1. 1000-3

  2. Talon X
20231012 152529
Are you talking about the area circled? It looks like it's torn loose a bit, but yah.....smack it straight with a hammer and weld it.
 
advertisement
906UP

906UP

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Supporting Member
Club Contributor
Jul 6, 2017
14,307
135,775
113
da Yoop
Ownership

  1. 1000-3

  2. Talon X
Yes, that's right. Do you feel like this would cause my toe-out issue?
It could, it's hard to see how far it's bent from the pic. I would suggest measuring from the A arm to a point on each side to get a real picture...... example, measure from the ball joint to the center of the rear wheel on both sides and compare
 
lee

lee

Village Idiot
Lifetime Member
Club Contributor
Apr 4, 2013
2,390
13,544
113
Springfield Ohio
Ownership

  1. 500
Am I correct in thinking that it needs to be beaten back into alignment, then welded?

Try measuring from left to right.
The back side of the front mount and the front side of the back mount are clear side to side.
The measurements should be the same.

You could jack up the front end, drop the upper arm frame bolts (on the side that you think is wonky) and the holes should line up front to back.
Make sure they line up before you start welding.
 
The Green Goat

The Green Goat

LGBTQ Compliance Officer -Lotta gays in this place
Lifetime Member
Supporting Member
Sep 7, 2020
2,200
16,295
113
Ohio
Ownership

  1. 520
You jump a tooth in the rack?
 
  • Like
Reactions: KyGal83
futzin

futzin

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Sep 10, 2019
4,199
31,156
113
Kentucky
Ownership

  1. 500

  2. 520
Beats me, but increasingly looking like a steering rack issue, I guess.

Trying to knock out the easier, more accessible stuff first, but even that is taking forever. Special thanks to KyGal for her sharp eyes thus far.

Trying to get a buddy to do the alignment 'persuasion' and welding...
 
advertisement

About us

  • Our community has been around for many years and pride ourselves on offering unbiased, critical discussion among people of all different backgrounds. We are working every day to make sure our community is one of the best.

User Menu

Buy us a beer!

  • Lots of time and money has gone into making sure the community is running the best software, best designs, and all the other bells and whistles. Care to buy us a beer? We'd really appreciate it!

    Beer Fund!

    Club Membership!