Talk me out of trading my P 1000-5

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I have a 2020 P1000-5. I have put a roof on it, winch, and windshield. Has less than 600 miles. I am a Honda guy, but this thing is so hot and dust just boils up into the cab. I have 4 children and the heat in the cab is miserable. Its got loads of power, and I'm sure would be very reliable long term, but ready to go the Defender route. My understanding is my 2020 should have the heat reducing materials on it from factory. Am I missing something ?
I guess it all depend on what you want to do with you pioneer. I’ve added heat reflecting material under the seats, a 7-1/2 in spal blower under the seat; a windshield for my wife and a mid screen. If you’re carrying kids in the back, put a rear screen or windshield and heat reflecting material under the passenger side rear floor. My son-in-law bought one of the four door defenders with A/C, heat and power windows and it’s nice, but not near the fun of the pioneer.
 
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I have a 2020 P1000-5. I have put a roof on it, winch, and windshield. Has less than 600 miles. I am a Honda guy, but this thing is so hot and dust just boils up into the cab. I have 4 children and the heat in the cab is miserable. Its got loads of power, and I'm sure would be very reliable long term, but ready to go the Defender route. My understanding is my 2020 should have the heat reducing materials on it from factory. Am I missing something ?
Does your windshield open up? Get yourself the SATV flip open windshield! You can open it a little bit, or open it all the way. When riding, heat is no longer an issue until it gets to about 85 degrees F. I don't care what kind of utv you get, if you have a windshield that does not open all the way, it will be hot in summer. I like being able to close it, even in summer, if we are out riding and it starts raining. You will get soaked in a hurry if you do not have a windshield.
 
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I had the same problem on my 2016 P1000, full windshield and back cab cover (not a full cab). I researched online for a cure, but got the same answers that I have read on this post. What I did is added the heat shield on the seat first. That helped the heat problem some... For the dust problem, I found that most of the dust was coming from around the bottom of the doors, and from behind the seat. So I used duct tape on the seat belt cracks, and then stuffed foam between the back of the beach seat. Around the door, I attached pipe insolation around the leading edges. This made a huge difference in the dust problem.
 
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I have a 2020 P1000-5. I have put a roof on it, winch, and windshield. Has less than 600 miles. I am a Honda guy, but this thing is so hot and dust just boils up into the cab. I have 4 children and the heat in the cab is miserable. Its got loads of power, and I'm sure would be very reliable long term, but ready to go the Defender route. My understanding is my 2020 should have the heat reducing materials on it from factory. Am I missing something ?
My pioneer 1000 seating was extremely hot. I purchased a insulation kit from Design Engineering, problem solved.
Cost about $140.00. Good luck, Bob.
 
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I just went the route your are thinking with the defender and got the Defender Max Limited. It's not even a comparison. It's obviously a few bucks more, but after you have to add on the million honda accessories, the price is very close. The hard doors, power windshield, AC/heater, flip windshield AND an actual bed you can use is 100x better. Have no regrets going the defender route after having my pioneer 1000-5 for the past year. I have a family with young kids as well and your worries about it being so hot and everything are the exact reason I switched. Do it and you won't regret it!
 
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I have a 2020 P1000-5. I have put a roof on it, winch, and windshield. Has less than 600 miles. I am a Honda guy, but this thing is so hot and dust just boils up into the cab. I have 4 children and the heat in the cab is miserable. Its got loads of power, and I'm sure would be very reliable long term, but ready to go the Defender route. My understanding is my 2020 should have the heat reducing materials on it from factory. Am I missing something ?
I have a 1000-3 have roof, windshield, back plastic/fabric enclosure instead of glass( too expensive) dust isn’t a real big issue for me and wife. As far as the heat when we first got it, boy was it hot inside cab with full windshield with no air movement. I took seat out, seat back, and loosen up panels by your legs. I went to Menards and bought reflectix. Is like bubble wrap flexible. And made for heating/cooling in houses. I went up 1/2 way of back seat down under bottom seat and part way down the panel by legs. This is super easy and popped holes where the rivets went and then Reinstalled both seats. I would say the heat is 93% less than stock. Took me about 1-1/2 hr to do it.

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I just went the route your are thinking with the defender and got the Defender Max Limited. It's not even a comparison. It's obviously a few bucks more, but after you have to add on the million honda accessories, the price is very close. The hard doors, power windshield, AC/heater, flip windshield AND an actual bed you can use is 100x better. Have no regrets going the defender route after having my pioneer 1000-5 for the past year. I have a family with young kids as well and your worries about it being so hot and everything are the exact reason I switched. Do it and you won't regret it!
But you still have a belt drive, heat is a none issue if you spend a few hundred and put a couple hours of work in, doubt that defender was only a few hundred more.
 
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I have a 2020 P1000-5. I have put a roof on it, winch, and windshield. Has less than 600 miles. I am a Honda guy, but this thing is so hot and dust just boils up into the cab. I have 4 children and the heat in the cab is miserable. Its got loads of power, and I'm sure would be very reliable long term, but ready to go the Defender route. My understanding is my 2020 should have the heat reducing materials on it from factory. Am I missing something ?
Put a back window in it. It will help quite a bit and then put one in the way back
 
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BrianM

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I have a talon and I use the flip up SATV windshield. I need it in the mountains when it rains...almost every day. In the cold mornings it's nice down and in the warm afternoons it nice up. I've noticed a lot of heat coming up through the gear shifter slot. I used a thick sheet of silicone with a slot cut in it to help. It was maybe originally a cookie sheet hot pad to keep the counter from burning.
 
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I just went the route your are thinking with the defender and got the Defender Max Limited. It's not even a comparison. It's obviously a few bucks more, but after you have to add on the million honda accessories, the price is very close. The hard doors, power windshield, AC/heater, flip windshield AND an actual bed you can use is 100x better. Have no regrets going the defender route after having my pioneer 1000-5 for the past year. I have a family with young kids as well and your worries about it being so hot and everything are the exact reason I switched. Do it and you won't regret it!

But you still have a belt drive, heat is a none issue if you spend a few hundred and put a couple hours of work in, doubt that defender was only a few hundred more.
Defender = limo = no good for trails
I'm willing to bet the pioneer will go 99.99% places the Defender goes but far less the other way 🤷‍♂️ little heat and dust is normal. Everyone seems to forget these are a SxS not a Jeep
 
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I have a 2020 P1000-5. I have put a roof on it, winch, and windshield. Has less than 600 miles. I am a Honda guy, but this thing is so hot and dust just boils up into the cab. I have 4 children and the heat in the cab is miserable. Its got loads of power, and I'm sure would be very reliable long term, but ready to go the Defender route. My understanding is my 2020 should have the heat reducing materials on it from factory. Am I missing something ?
I have the Honda two piece windshield. I remove the top part in the summer and it reduces the dust significantly. The lip on the bottom portion defects the wind up to/over your head. Where I live, in the winter, it is damp enough that dust is less of an issue and I replace the windshield.
 
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I have a 2020 P1000-5. I have put a roof on it, winch, and windshield. Has less than 600 miles. I am a Honda guy, but this thing is so hot and dust just boils up into the cab. I have 4 children and the heat in the cab is miserable. Its got loads of power, and I'm sure would be very reliable long term, but ready to go the Defender route. My understanding is my 2020 should have the heat reducing materials on it from factory. Am I missing something ?
I had the same issues, it was so hot in the summer from engine heat. Get a good heat shield off ebay( same as the dealers just 1/3 the price, took off the front doors. Made a major difference.
The dust, it’s a problem that has come from you windshield causing a vacuum. Buy a 80.00 cloth back windshield, that will cut about 85% of the dust. The front doors removed also allowed more air flow which also helps. I’m on my 8th UTV, the dust is a problem with all UTV with a windshield and no back
Don’t sell that Honda, it’s the best one on the market

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Does your windshield open up? Get yourself the SATV flip open windshield! You can open it a little bit, or open it all the way. When riding, heat is no longer an issue until it gets to about 85 degrees F. I don't care what kind of utv you get, if you have a windshield that does not open all the way, it will be hot in summer. I like being able to close it, even in summer, if we are out riding and it starts raining. You will get soaked in a hurry if you do not have a windshield.
I put an 801 UTV windshield on mine. There are vents on the bottom that flip up and it works well.
 

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