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My buddy is ready to put the rigs on the dyno. Think me and @joeymt33 are going to go sometime soon and get a baseline and tuned run. Need to find the closest 1:1 in the tranny.
 
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My buddy is ready to put the rigs on the dyno. Think me and @joeymt33 are going to go sometime soon and get a baseline and tuned run. Need to find the closest 1:1 in the tranny.

Finding 1:1 won't be perfect. The sub trans isn't 1:1 in high or low.
 
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Finding 1:1 won't be perfect. The sub trans isn't 1:1 in high or low.
Yea. I thought it was odd. Havent looked it up yet to see. I guess the main thing is the difference between the two. Would like to run yours without the intake cover...o_O
 
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Yea. I thought it was odd. Havent looked it up yet to see. I guess the main thing is the difference between the two. Would like to run yours without the intake cover...o_O

I'm so anxious to get up there and put these things on the dyno and see what kind of power we will put on the ground and how much we can improve over stock.

Should we start taking bets? I'm guessing my vehicle picked up 8 hp in the lower RPMs.
 
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Do us a favor when you make your pulls. After you get the base line remove the turn down from the muffler and make a pull.
My tip is already bigger than the muffler hole. One of the exhaust companies dynoed there muffler on the pioneer and it only picked up 1hp and 1ft# with the loud muffler. Theirs eliminated the cat also.
 
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Very interesting indeed... wish I had the skill, time and place to play around with stuff like this! Very cool!
 
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Y'all go ahead and get all that figured out so I can steal your map down the road when I break down and get one lol. I've literally ran off the road in my Neon making fuel changes on the laptop lol.
 
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My tip is already bigger than the muffler hole. One of the exhaust companies dynoed there muffler on the pioneer and it only picked up 1hp and 1ft# with the loud muffler. Theirs eliminated the cat also.

Where is the catalytic converter?
mine is an endangered specie
 
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My tip is already bigger than the muffler hole. One of the exhaust companies dynoed there muffler on the pioneer and it only picked up 1hp and 1ft# with the loud muffler. Theirs eliminated the cat also.

1/1 that's all? The muffler should be free!

10lbs might be nice on a race bike with a midget driving, but I'm 200lbs and it ain't no race bike.

Unless there's some yuge gain to be had with a tuner it doesn't seem worth time or money.
 
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1/1 that's all? The muffler should be free!

10lbs might be nice on a race bike with a midget driving, but I'm 200lbs and it ain't no race bike.

Unless there's some yuge gain to be had with a tuner it doesn't seem worth time or money.
I'm still less than optimistic a tuner is gonna produce good increases on a stock engine. But my experience is based on sport bikes not sxs's. It's possible Honda left some meat on the bone since they are so new. Total HP increase is gonna be minimal (I'd be astounded if you got 5% out of it). The improvement is gonna be from cleaning up the graph where it dips and spikes.
The biggest advantage I see is down the road when the aftermarket finally catches up. Cams, exhausts, headwork, etc.
 
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Joey I'd be thrilled if you got your 8hp. I'd be the first to shake your hand and admit my prediction was totally wrong. But I've learned through the years that optimism and dynos rarely go good together lol
 
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I'm still less than optimistic a tuner is gonna produce good increases on a stock engine. But my experience is based on sport bikes not sxs's. It's possible Honda left some meat on the bone since they are so new. Total HP increase is gonna be minimal (I'd be astounded if you got 5% out of it). The improvement is gonna be from cleaning up the graph where it dips and spikes.
The biggest advantage I see is down the road when the aftermarket finally catches up. Cams, exhausts, headwork, etc.


On NA engines, I have had no success with "bolt on" adds, rebuilds yes but you're not working with anything close to stock.

Tuners I've only had measurable success on Turbo motors.

For the $$$$$$$$$$ it's just not worth a 5-10% increase on a 75hp motor.

+20% hp/tq on a 365hp motor yeah $400 is acceptable.
 
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Joey proved his picked up on the bottom end by racing snuff. That makes it worth getting to me.
 
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