33's on a R

[Willy-T-Ribs]

Hoping for anyone with real life experience running 33" tire on a Talon R with stock rims .

The questions I have are:

1) Do they fit?
2) If so, do they hit/rub during full compression, full wheel range?

This inquiry is aimed at the R, 2 or 4 seat iteration, not X.

 

[Admin]

 

[CID]

Hoping for anyone with real life experience running 33" tire on a Talon R with stock rims .

The questions I have are:

1) Do they fit?
2) If so, do they hit/rub during full compression, full wheel range?

This inquiry is aimed at the R, 2 or 4 seat iteration, not X.

I'm a short-shifter, so I'm used to low rpm running but there are many times, above 12k elevation, where my R2 can barely pull the gearing with 30" tires.

I know that 32's will fit an R2, so even if the 33's make some contact, it won't be much.

The thing about tires, they're temporary, give 'em a try and let us know.

 

[JNo323]

33's won't work without changing the a-arms on the 23 and up R2's. I do not know for the R4's.

 

[Willy-T-Ribs]

@JNo323, I'm betting the front end geometry is the same for both R2 and R4. It would make total sense from a manufacturers point of view. So thanks for that piece of intel.

Our riding style here in Northern Utah is low and slow with a premium placed on ground clearance. We're not mud boggers or sand blasters. We prefer to mosey along the rocky 4x4 trails that dot the Wasatch back and smell the roses. It's funny, back when we crawled with our modified 98 TJ in Colorado, I always felt that our low and slow crawling was actually easier on the rig than normal driving. We never had to thrash on this rig to get her to clear an obstacle. Just 4 low, 488's, ARB lockers, hand throttle and up she went. That is a driving style I want to emulate with this buggy.

@CID, your comment about altitude gave me some pause. Some of the trails around here do get above 10K' but nothing like our prior home state of Colorado. We have already been up above 10K' a number of times with the stock 28's and have never felt the impact of altitude other than my earlier post of rough idle when restarting (which the forum helped me resolve BTW). I'm not expecting a paralyzing power falloff running 32's but the proof will be in the pudding. Like it's been stated many times before, you're only dating your tires, not marrying them.

 

[Adam490]

Ran all over Windrock and Stony Lonesome without issue with 33x10-15 Terramasters on factory wheels. Was running around 12PSI with these not being beadlocks, but would have aired down to 8-10PSI on beadlock wheels. As @JNo323 mentioned, the front lower arms on the '23+ R models are swept back to help with the turning radius which will affect what size tire you can run versus the pre-23's.

 

[hondabob]

The super low sub trans gear mod should be great for that slow high-altitude riding may be a good option. The guy in I think Texas runs 35's buy installing the R suspension on a talon X.

 

[Willy-T-Ribs]

@Adam490, you are running the exact combo of factory rims and 33" GBC Terra Master's that I was looking at. Even down to mounting side B out.

So what I'm understanding is that your rig is a pre-23 and can run these 33's without issue - lucky you. My 24 on the other hand will have contact issues due to a design tweak of the front suspension. Am I smelling what you're stepping in?

One last question Adam while I have your attention. Did you by chance measure what your front tire diameter was with full air? As we all know, a 33 might not actually be a 33 (or even a 32 in some cases).

 

[Adam490]

@Adam490, you are running the exact combo of factory rims and 33" GBC Terra Master's that I was looking at. Even down to mounting side B out.

So what I'm understanding is that your rig is a pre-23 and can run these 33's without issue - lucky you. My 24 on the other hand will have contact issues due to a design tweak of the front suspension. Am I smelling what you're stepping in?

One last question Adam while I have your attention. Did you by chance measure what your front tire diameter was with full air? As we all know, a 33 might not actually be a 33 (or even a 32 in some cases).

Correct on the lower arms on the '24. You should be able to find some pre-'23 lowers and swap them right over though from what I've seen.

When I inflated them to seat the bead they were at max PSI (like 30PSI) and sat in the sun for a few days in 80-90* heat. Measured off the buggy and they were larger than a 33 and almost a 34. I think they are closer to a 32 now at the 10-12 PSI it's sitting at.

 

[Willy-T-Ribs]

Dang. No 80's/90's heat happening up here in Northern Utah. We're 15 miles south of Park CIty at 5600 feet on the Wasatch back. In the mornings we can hear the avalanche mitigation going off at Alta ski resort.

I'm all about margin so the smart play here is to roll with a set of 32's vs trying to squeeze all the air out of the bag.

Appreciate the information shared @Adam490. You've got a nice setup. I'm sure you're loving the GBC TM's.

 

[JNo323]

You’ll have to swap both uppers and lowers. If you swap just the lowers they will be almost 3” forward of the tops. I’ve swapped mine to 21’s and had no issues with 33’s. My tires measure 33” with 15 psi. I also ride slow and mainly Windrock and Coalmont in Tennessee. I do plan to do the lower low and IGR soon and feel it’s not low enough to actually crawl. I’ve had no issues going anywhere with it, just have to hit obstacles with a little speed to keep the clutches engaged.

 

[Hometeam]

Ran all over Windrock and Stony Lonesome without issue with 33x10-15 Terramasters on factory wheels. Was running around 12PSI with these not being beadlocks, but would have aired down to 8-10PSI on beadlock wheels. As @JNo323 mentioned, the front lower arms on the '23+ R models are swept back to help with the turning radius which will affect what size tire you can run versus the pre-23's.

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And how did you like them?? After making fun of me for running the TerraMasters…..how did they work out for you??🤓😂

 

[Hometeam]

@Adam490, you are running the exact combo of factory rims and 33" GBC Terra Master's that I was looking at. Even down to mounting side B out.

So what I'm understanding is that your rig is a pre-23 and can run these 33's without issue - lucky you. My 24 on the other hand will have contact issues due to a design tweak of the front suspension. Am I smelling what you're stepping in?

One last question Adam while I have your attention. Did you by chance measure what your front tire diameter was with full air? As we all know, a 33 might not actually be a 33 (or even a 32 in some cases).

The TerraMasters do have a tendency to run small. We have ran 4 sets in 32” that measured more like 31.25-31.5 inches. We also ran a set of 33” that was more like 32.25. We have a set 35” Terra Master that we haven’t mounted yet. I personally like the Terra Masters a lot. I am running Zillas right now but plan to do the Terra Masters when the Zillas are ready for replacement.
If I was you I’d get whichever size you are wanting and see how much it rubs for you. I ran 32s on our X and it rubbed some but not bad and only in certain situations. If it rubs more than you like then I’d get a high clearance lower aarm for a pre 23 and a factory upper for a pre 23. Then you are doing an upgrade that it is also needed on the Talon for rock crawling stuff. Just my .02!

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

And here i am bolting 35s on a stock KRX.... 😆

 

[Fatsquatch]

And here i am bolting 35s on a stock KRX.... 😆

Yet … still racing the Honda, right? 🫣
I don’t really care just found it amusing.

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

Yet … still racing the Honda, right? 🫣
I don’t really care just found it amusing.

Yep, I short course race the Honda because it's the best N/A machine available to get the job done.

I bought the KRX to rock crawl because it's built like a brick s***house and can take the abuse I throw at it. I would have already totaled a Talon taking it the same places I've taken my KRX. Right tool for the job and all.....

 

[DRZRon1]

Yep, I short course race the Honda because it's the best N/A machine available to get the job done.

I bought the KRX to rock crawl because it's built like a brick s***house and can take the abuse I throw at it. I would have already totaled a Talon taking it the same places I've taken my KRX. Right tool for the job and all.....

and you haven’t even melted down the incorrectly designed krx engine - amazing

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

and you haven’t even melted down the incorrectly designed krx engine - amazing

Care to explain to the class what the engine design flaws are? Being able to replace the cylinders without needing a new block if the engine does blow sure doesn't suck. 😆

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

Zero mods needed to fit and run 35s. I actually lowered the car 2" after installing the tires to keep the CG in check. No forward A arms or high clearance parts needed, no need for expensive gear reduction kits and no need for aftermarket wheels.

 

[DRZRon1]

Care to explain to the class what the engine design flaws are? Being able to replace the cylinders without needing a new block if the engine does blow sure doesn't suck. 😆

It was sarcasm from previous krx haters - lol

no krx hater here

 

[SLOWPOKE693]

It was sarcasm from previous krx haters - lol

no krx hater here