Mayhem On the Mountain 4 FJB II

[Ridinfool]

Game Wardens have "special powers" that regular police do not have. Now one could always argue in court if fined but..

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Part of the agreement when purchasing a TN Hunt Fish combo license is to comply with all requests from Game Wardens while on State property/ jurisdiction. Hence buying the license is optional as is agreement to those terms. Probable cause and 4th Amendment was shoved up your bung hole when you checked the box to comply upon purchasing permit.

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[Admin]

 

[TripleB]

Game Wardens have "special powers" that regular police do not have. Now one could always argue in court if fined but..

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Part of the agreement when purchasing a TN Hunt Fish combo license is to comply with all requests from Game Wardens while on State property/ jurisdiction. Hence buying the license is optional as is agreement to those terms. Probable cause and 4th Amendment was shoved up your bung hole when you checked the box to comply upon purchasing permit.

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Yep and that will be the big difference between windrock and the WMA. Windrock will take your permit and ban you. TWRA will take you to jail if they want.

 

[GovtMule]

Valid point when it comes to the license agreement.

 

[Scoop]

Game Wardens have "special powers" that regular police do not have. Now one could always argue in court if fined but..

Game wardens are police officers. They are agents of the government. While they may have some DIFFERENT powers compared to a police officer or sheriff's deputy, they do not have the authority to violate Constitutionally protected rights. Point being, the same protected rights apply when dealing with any government agent acting in their legal capacity.

Part of the agreement when purchasing a TN Hunt Fish combo license is to comply with all requests from Game Wardens

All lawful requests.

while on State property/ jurisdiction. Hence buying the license is optional as is agreement to those terms.

That's called informed consent. You are voluntarily consenting to a warrantless search in advance.

Probable cause and 4th Amendment was shoved up your bung hole when you checked the box to comply upon purchasing permit.

It wasn't shoved up your ass. You CONSENTED to it, just like you can (verbally) consent to a search by any other LE officer.

 

[Scoop]

Yep and that will be the big difference between windrock and the WMA. Windrock will take your permit and ban you. TWRA will take you to jail if they want.

Is having alcohol a misdemeanor or a civil infraction on TWRA land? I don't know TN laws.

If a CI, then they can't arrest you. If a misdemeanor, they can (but generally won't).

 

[Smitty335]

Is having alcohol a misdemeanor or a civil infraction on TWRA land? I don't know TN laws.

If a CI, then they can't arrest you. If a misdemeanor, they can (but generally won't).

So what would you suggest, ride renegade without permit?

 

[Scoop]

So what would you suggest, ride renegade without permit?

Nope. I already got it figure out.

 

[Scoop]

So what would you suggest, ride renegade without permit?

Mama always told me: You don't have to be the fastest one. You just have to be faster than the slowest one.

 

[Mopower58]

Is having alcohol a misdemeanor or a civil infraction on TWRA land? I don't know TN laws.

I can't believe there is something you don't know! 😳

 

[Scoop]

I can't believe there is something you don't know! 😳

Very familiar with codified criminal law in MI, but no other states. 🤷‍♂️

 

[Mopower58]

Very familiar with codified criminal law in MI, but no other states. 🤷‍♂️

Is that when you were an LEO helper?

 

[Scoop]

Is that when you were an LEO helper?

Reserve LEO for ~10 years (until my accident) ... plus one of my two degrees is in CJUS/LE.

 

[Mopower58]

Reserve LEO for ~10 years (until my accident) ... plus one of my two degrees is in CJUS/LE.

Reserve/helper isn't that the same thing?

 

[TripleB]

Is having alcohol a misdemeanor or a civil infraction on TWRA land? I don't know TN laws.

If a CI, then they can't arrest you. If a misdemeanor, they can (but generally won't).

I'm not sure.

 

[Scoop]

Reserve/helper isn't that the same thing?

You're welcome to call it whatever you like. We had the majority of the same powers as full time certified, but only when on duty. My department required reserve officers to to complete the academy, qualify (firearms) 2x annually, and complete all the same in-service training as the FT officers. We couldn't perform road patrol solo, but served as a second officer in the car - which is especially useful for jurisdictions that do not have the tax base to support a large number of full-time officers.

In some states, reserve and full-timers are no different. Essentially, part-time vs full-time.

 

[Mopower58]

You're welcome to call it whatever you like. We had the majority of the same powers as full time certified, but only when on duty.

Doesn't the Idaho killer suspect have a degree in Criminal Justice?

 

[Scoop]

Doesn't the Idaho killer suspect have a degree in Criminal Justice?

I haven't followed that case very much.

That said, I would be willing to bet that there have likely been people from almost every profession and with most every type of degree that have murdered other people.

 

[JenElio]

 

[JACKAL]

Is having alcohol a misdemeanor or a civil infraction on TWRA land? I don't know TN laws.

If a CI, then they can't arrest you. If a misdemeanor, they can (but generally won't).

99% sure this is only a Civil Infraction/ Regulation violation- fine only.

There is a TN state law on the books prohibiting camping on state property ( Thanks to Memphis slums- think Portland) but then TWRA designates the North Cumberland WMAs all can camp anywhere, so the local regulations roll back the State law via designation.

I'm sure there is the same laws for operating a motor vehicle while under the influence, ergo doesn't matter if it's a car on the road or UTV on the trails, can't operate under the influence or have open containers, etc.

We been lucky they just didn't enforce it "at all" for the past 20 years. But we have had 6 alcohol related fatalities with OHV in North Cumberland WMA this past year alone.

Damn Yankees and carpetbaggers can't hold thier liquor or trash for that matter and screw it up for everyone.

 

[Scoop]

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Go big or go home, @JenElio !!