P500 Bought Another P500

[Rayger143]

I need to find one w a blown engine

I know because you wanna shoe horn a Talon powerplant in it. Im following.

 

[Admin]

 

[futzin]

Hey Futzin- remind me again how wide you are with the set-up in your above pictures?

60.5"

Even with skinnys and full Mudbusters the tires are still outside the plastics, so it gets a bit muddy.
This week's Windrock trip looks to be messy . . .

 

[MI-Trailblazer]

Thanks' futzin! I'm trying to decide on trying to "improve" the P5 more with something like what you have vs. trail width/speed or pull the trigger on being a "cool kid" according to the others here and pick up a Talon.

It's a hard decision, for 2 weeks ago at Twisted Trails Off Road Park - Sunday after the race, I was making a bunch of Jeeps look bad on the rock-crawling obstacle with the P5. But when I go riding with my ATV group- all the SXS are 1000cc and keep up with the quads. I'm usually 10 min behind in the P5.

 

[futzin]

Enjoying it today at Windrock park.
Doing very well...

 

[KyGal83]

 

[KyGal83]

Thanks' futzin! I'm trying to decide on trying to "improve" the P5 more with something like what you have vs. trail width/speed or pull the trigger on being a "cool kid" according to the others here and pick up a Talon.

It's a hard decision, for 2 weeks ago at Twisted Trails Off Road Park - Sunday after the race, I was making a bunch of Jeeps look bad on the rock-crawling obstacle with the P5. But when I go riding with my ATV group- all the SXS are 1000cc and keep up with the quads. I'm usually 10 min behind in the P5.

I am right there with you..

 

[futzin]

After a solid three day ride at Windrock Park with a variety of buggies and drivers, my thoughts on the "Taloneer 500":

Mud:
Trails were wet and muddy for two days and dry with the usual puddles/holes for the third. Traveled faster (comfortably) than I normally would.
I got some splatter, but not terrible on any one day. It did build up on the buggy though.
Verdict: worth it

Ride quality:
Excellent. I have the Walker Evans (unimpressive customer service, btw) shocks set really soft, so I need to try them on firmer settings but I'm loving the cushy ride.

Handling:
Mixed. Lots of body roll, sloppy steering, not as well planted on side slicks as a regular P5. Still, fun to drive.
Verdict: not a deal breaker

Capability:
Excellent. More than I expected. Lots of flex. No more anxiety when approaching most obstacles (non black trails, haven't tried any yet).
I feel like it's roughly comparable to a P1K, narrower but with more flex. Lack of power to climb rocks, ledges factors in.
Much more capable than a P5 with spacers and stock a-arms.
Love the 60" width with flex on the TN trails.

Cost:
Expensive, by any measure. But, I'm weird: I don't care for the P7, and no desire at all for the Talon.
I love the sense of accomplishment from successfully wheeling a 'regular' P5, but I do often feel anxious on real trails.
A recent Talon reviewer mentioned basically no challenge on most obstacles.
That's about the last thing I want, personally. YMMV.

If this thing had 7-800 cc, it would be about perfect (for me).
Like any P5, it needs more power to climb, mount. It needs more power to make a reasonable pace on-road. For me, it goes plenty fast enough for trail riding; it now does it comfortably.

Until Honda offers a mid size (60-62") ICE trail machine (very likely never), I'll wheel this "T5".

 

[906UP]

If this thing had 1000 cc & a DCT transmission, it would be about perfect.
Like any P5, it needs more power to climb, mount. It needs more power to make a reasonable pace on-road. For me, it goes plenty fast enough for trail riding; it now does it comfortably.

Fixed that one little thing

 

[futzin]

Fixed that one little thing

Let me know if you're feeling froggy.

 

[futzin]

So, the Taloneer 500 is down for the count. We'll see if it gets back up again, and if it can stay in the fight.

On a recent ride, one or two ball joints on the left front A-arms failed. Wasn't drivable and possibly got further damaged dragging it off the mountain (VERY grateful for those that helped me get it out!). The upper arm tabs are bent, twisted.

I knew this whole thing was a risk; not knowing if it would stand up to the TN mountains. I like to ride slow, and I'm careful about how I stress these machines so I don't think I've been particularly hard on it. The few guys I was able to reach that run (or have run) this setup had no issues with suspension.

A fantasmic forum member is going to straighten and reinforce the front tabs (sound familiar??), reassemble and align it (assuming nothing else is wonky). Then we'll start over and see how it goes.

 

[The Green Goat]

Good thing you've got 11 spare P5's.

 

[906UP]

Good thing you've got 11 spare P5's.

I can bring another if need be......she's a gem 🤪

 

[Splorin]

Your required to rebuild it better and create a new weak link……

 

[906UP]

Your required to rebuild it better and create a new weak link……

That's the plan

 

[futzin]

Good thing you've got 11 spare P5's.

I keep telling myself there will come a day (maybe) when all three are available at the same time. Hasn't happened yet.

 

[futzin]

Update:

The Taloneer 500 is back 😁😍🤩👍🤟 from the 'frame shop' (straightened and reinforced) and ready to get put back together (still has the P5 drivetrain in it though! 🤔).
I great big ridiculous THANK YOU to the fella with much patience and a big damn heart. I'm beyond grateful.
It will take me way longer than it should to reassemble but I'll update as I go.

This afternoon I reinstalled the hitch plate and rear bumper, which did not go as planned but got done.

Still to go:
-front bumpers, reconnect winch
-rewire rear cube lights
-replace a couple of shock mount bolts with longer
-front Mudbusters & rock lights
-skid plate
-windshield
-rear panel
-Quick Shield
-rear tray with cubes

 

[TxDoc]

Wow...
Can't wait to see the continued progress

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[futzin]

Got the Taloneer ready to take back to Camp. Still need to reinstall windshield, rear panel, and rear tray down there. The P5 fleet looks to be almost at full strength (probably shouldn't have said that!).

Anxious to get her back on the trails!

 

[Fatsquatch]

Got the Taloneer ready to take back to Camp. Still need to reinstall windshield, rear panel, and rear tray down there. The P5 fleet looks to be almost at full strength (probably shouldn't have said that!).

Anxious to get her back on the trails!

No time like the present! POIDH!

 

[futzin]

No time like the present! POIDH!

Not sure when. Got some work stuff going on. Definitely got Windrock or Royal Blue on my mind, as they are closest (and I have permits ). Another Hatfield McCoy trip sounds great too.

First order of business is a couple of local rides; there's chainsaw work that's overdue.