P700 700 camshaft issue

[Samre]

Hi, i am pretty new to this and I know its probably in the wrong place but... Is there anywhere to buy a complete rebuilt engine for a Honda MUV700, 2013 ...
Thanks for any help.

 

[Admin]

 

[Farmer]

I have a 2015 pioneer 700-4 that I am currently troubleshooting. It idles perfectly, but when I press the accelerator I can only get up to about 6-8 mph then it seems like the limiter is kicking in in Drive. Is this the issue that the cam change fixed??

Yes, but check the exhaust and everything else 1st. How many miles does it have? They usually go out early if they're going to. Edit.....early if it's from the same defect. Cams can go for a variety of reasons but if you have low miles and it's out...... you have every reason to ask for compensation.

 

[Farmer]

I've never taken one apart, so this qualifies as a WAG question . . . wonder if they changed anything with regard to cam lubrication? Oil gallery ports, etc. Honda usually, but not always, gets things right. On my S2000, they found that running above 6,000 rpm for over 30 minutes (IIRC), caused oil starvation to the rear and maybe front piston rod crank ends. The fix was increasing the size of the oil ports. If you don't run motocross, you'd never experience a problem. I don't, so haven't bothered to do the upgrade.

The main consensus is that there was a surface hardening issue that went on for far too long before Honda showed any interest. The cams literally sit in a cup of oil so all signs point to manufacturing defects vs lack of oil. The weird part was the randomness. Mine went out at 680 miles under very limited and basic use. No high revs or beasting in the mud etc.

 

[Farmer]

I have a 2015 pioneer 700-4 that I am currently troubleshooting. It idles perfectly, but when I press the accelerator I can only get up to about 6-8 mph then it seems like the limiter is kicking in in Drive. Is this the issue that the cam change fixed??

If your cam is bad.....make sure you're getting a recently made part. With parts etc being hard to get, I'd hate to see you get an old dusty "bad one" from off someones shelf.

 

[price1983]

Howdy. Been reading threads regarding the Pioneer 700 camshaft issue, the issue where the cam lobes round off. I suspect I have this issue with my 700 and so I will be replacing my cam. Question is - is this something that has been resolved?? My understanding, based on the other posts about it, is that it was some kind of 'issue', common with our machines (that the cam lobes wear). I mean I'd hate to go through the work to replace the cam later to find out I should have used some 'upgraded' version of the cam or something, and end up in this same boat again down the road. Anyone have experience with this situation that could add some detail? Thanks much all

Hello. I have a 2020 pioneer 700. I've had my camshaft replaced by the dealer right after my warranty ran out 4,000 dollars got it back 13 months later it went out again it has 3,800 miles on it! Ridiculous!

 

[price1983]

The main consensus is that there was a surface hardening issue that went on for far too long before Honda showed any interest. The cams literally sit in a cup of oil so all signs point to manufacturing defects vs lack of oil. The weird part was the randomness. Mine went out at 680 miles under very limited and basic use. No high revs or beasting in the mud etc.

Hello. I have a 2020 pioneer 700. I've had my camshaft replaced by the dealer right after my warranty ran out 4,000 dollars got it back 13 months later it went out again it has 3,800 miles on it! Ridiculous! I want an explanation and my money back at this point.

 

[500oneer]

Hello. I have a 2020 pioneer 700. I've had my camshaft replaced by the dealer right after my warranty ran out 4,000 dollars got it back 13 months later it went out again it has 3,800 miles on it! Ridiculous! I want an explanation and my money back at this point.

Honda isn’t going to do anything about this. They have know about camshaft problems since that motor was in the rincon atv. Factory reps have been denying it for over 15 years. $4,000 sounds high for just a cam.

 

[price1983]

Honda isn’t going to do anything about this. They have know about camshaft problems since that motor was in the rincon atv. Factory reps have been denying it for over 15 years. $4,000 sounds high for just a cam.

Extreme power sports of Columbus Georgia where I purchased it and that's who fix it. I agree I could have got a whole other motor.

 

[Hello_Darkness]

Extreme power sports of Columbus Georgia where I purchased it and that's who fix it. I agree I could have got a whole other motor.

I literally could've built you an engine from the crank up for under $4k

Camshaft replacement usually cost under $1k, way under. Unless they removed and cleaned engine out, but even then $4k is high.

 

[DRZRon1]

Hello. I have a 2020 pioneer 700. I've had my camshaft replaced by the dealer right after my warranty ran out 4,000 dollars got it back 13 months later it went out again it has 3,800 miles on it! Ridiculous! I want an explanation and my money back at this point.

who do you want an explanation from specifically and what recourse are you taking to get your money back ?

 

[DRZRon1]

I literally could've built you an engine from the crank up for under $4k

Camshaft replacement usually cost under $1k, way under. Unless they removed and cleaned engine out, but even then $4k is high.

I’m just amazed it only took 13 months 😂 for a couple hour job 😂😂😂

 

[price1983]

who do you want an explanation from specifically and what recourse are you taking to get your money back ?

Im just saying I'm fed up with this Honda parts were under a thousand but the rest was labor.