2022 Pioneer 1000 Model Announcement Today, Honda REDLINE

[PJon]

Regarding the changes to the sub transmission, anyone know if the ratios have been lowered and if so can the parts be retrofitted to the earlier models?

 

[Admin]

 

[CoachRoss07]

The price increase is not Honda's fault. Responsibility lies with the dimwit in the White Housee and his party in congress. It's called inflation.

To understand inflation we have to understand that it's not the price that increased, its the value (buying power) of our money that shrank. Our money is worth about 8% less this year than it was when they took office.

It's always political isnt it? Lol. Tell me one vehicle or off road vehicle that doesnt have price increases for new designs or mid cycle refreshes lol.

 

[DG Rider]

Sounds like something we're not used to from Honda...and that's progress. Sealed engine bays, bigger radiators, etc. Well done.

Now show some love to THE FIRST PIONEER.

 

[Adam490]

It appears that the color back bed panel that several used as a storage area will be void of a color panel in 2022. Not sure it was mentioned in any of the previous details. Thanks guys for all the updates and changes.

It's there on the Deluxe models. It's just black like the sticker. You can see it if you look closely:

Same thing on the Trail (matches the red sticker):

The bare plastic has ridges in it (you can see it on the base model):

 

[P1K5Dave]

Regarding the changes to the sub transmission, anyone know if the ratios have been lowered and if so can the parts be retrofitted to the earlier models?

Those parts were mentioned by @HondaTech a few months back, and yes - all parts are available to update your subtrans. It's mentioned in the later pages of my subtrans thread.

One thing I'm not clear on - did they change the reverse gears, or does one still need to swap in Talon reverse gears if you want a lower reverse?

 

[P1K5Dave]

I'll be interested in seeing that new front end / A arm mounts.

I like the new front end. Wonder if it can be bolted onto a 16-21?

It kind of looks like it's just the grille assembly that changed (?) I'm thinking the hood and fender would be the same. My guess, anyway...

 

[tjoreo]

I was looking at the shifter and saw that they may have removed the differential box under the passenger seat. Maybe just moved it to another parts diagram or maybe it just locks 1 tire in park.

 

[P1K5Dave]

...they may have removed the differential box under the passenger seat.

Whoa, that's significant. Definitely want to know what's going on here.

 

[Smitty335]

It's always political isnt it? Lol. Tell me one vehicle or off road vehicle that doesnt have price increases for new designs or mid cycle refreshes lol.

VOTE Democrat, if you like the way things are going!

 

[Neohio]

If you read what Jackal posted, they did redesign the drive select. It said something about a single cable now.

 

[ButchersHook]

 

[Neohio]

I hope they make blank switches that match available.

 

[Smitty335]

I hope they make blank switches that match available.

Who knows, Honda is slow to learn what consumers want. I would like to have a P1 on a X frame, with the Deluxe transmission and 14 - 16 inches of travel, stretch the body a little/bed. Honda could have cornered the Sport UTV market? P1-X

 

[HondaTech]

I hope they make blank switches that match available.

I believe i saw switches in the parts fiched labeled On/Off

 

[trigger]

I read it all, I really did, and it sounds great! Really what I took away from it is... reduced cabin heat and noise!!! I think Honda is the only manufacturer to actually consider cabin comfort, and probably from following this forum...

Nah, they're all doing it now and Honda was actually the last to properly address it. They're sealing up some of the holes in the plastics but they'll still be hot and loud.

 

[Lloydtheredneck]

not gonna lie, i think im priced out of the market at this point. the 14ish i paid for mine new was tough to swallow. 22k to replace it is too much for me. politics and upgrades aside its just a s... load for a toy! i am a honda fanboy all the way, i would never stray from the brand so at some point ill be paying way too much.. i am dead set on the cable driven 4wd and lockers i just cant get on board with i4wd

 

[HondaTech]

not gonna lie, i think im priced out of the market at this point. the 14ish i paid for mine new was tough to swallow. 22k to replace it is too much for me. politics and upgrades aside its just a s... load for a toy! i am a honda fanboy all the way, i would never stray from the brand so at some point ill be paying way too much.. i am dead set on the cable driven 4wd and lockers i just cant get on board with i4wd

The Base and Deluxe models still have the manual locker in front.

 

[LaVell]

Any good pictures of the inside?

 

[NEfarm_ranch]

@Hondasxs Thanks for fix


We should get accessory info later today i would guess.

Any information on accessories yet? Especially the heater? Will we have to give up storage space or dash controls to have it?

 

[HondaTech]

Any information on accessories yet? Especially the heater? Will we have to give up storage space or dash controls to have it?

We've got pricing, but no installation instructions.

Roofs, Windshields, Rear Panels, Doors all fit from older models.