P1000 Unresponsive throttle and erratic idle.

[Adam490]

Mine fixed itself once the sun came up.

 

[Admin]

 

[NewHere2]

I still plan on pulling the sensor off the gas pedal to check if there is moisture in it once done with the rest. If none of these fix the issue I will replace the actual throttle cable since I read it can get water in it and may be freezing in sub temps.

My bet it’s the cable. Let us know what ya find out.

Unrelated, had a spiders nest, the size of a green olive, in the air box on a quad. All it would do is idle at 14,000 ft. elevation.

 

[john790]

Seems everytime i hear this its water in the tank.One teaspoon will cause problems.

 

[Alaska350]

Seems everytime i hear this its water in the tank.One teaspoon will cause problems.

I’ve run almost 2 tanks through the machine since the River incident last summer. It never missed a beat until it was trailers in below 30 weather for 30 mins. The machine had all the lines vented up to the top of the rack before it got the first mile on it. Not sure how water could have gotten in it. With all of that you still think I should run some heet through it?

 

[JenElio]

@Alaska350 I'd hate for this community to disappoint you any further by trying to solve your issue.....🙄😂

You've mentioned several times that it acts up after about a 30 minute trailer ride then eventually fixes it's self more or less. Why not trailer it (30 minutes +/-) straight to the dealership so that it can hopefully replicate the issues in front of a tech...🤷‍♂️

 

[Alaska350]

@Alaska350 I'd hate for this community to disappoint you any further by trying to solve your issue.....🙄😂

You've mentioned several times that it acts up after about a 30 minute trailer ride then eventually fixes its self more or less. Why not trailer it (30 minutes +/-) straight to the dealership so that it can hopefully replicate the issues in front of a tech...🤷‍♂️

What I meant was I was really hoping someone had the same issue and could offer a for sure thing to try….not a bunch of maybes. All good suggestions but again it would have been awesome if someone said….i had the same exact issue as the video and it was this. Make sense?

It was trailered straight to the dealership which took about 30 mins the first time. They have no idea as it wasn’t doing it. DTC code 102-2 They said. I called them today and now they are telling me it’s the throttle cable freezing up and should be replaced. So that is my plan since I have already replaced both injector wires.

 

[JenElio]

All good suggestions but again it would have been awesome if someone said….i had the same exact issue as the video and it was this. Make sense?

What video? We haven't seen a video...

A frozen throttle cable could be the issue, I suppose it could thaw out just ain time as the engine bay/under hood area warm up from your extreme cold temps.....🤷‍♂️ I'm no expert on that kinda weather as I live on the opposite corner of the continent pretty much...

Good luck, and please do report back as that will definitely help out the next person with similar issues 👍

 

[Alaska350]

For some reason the video didn’t save when I made the post. Here it is again

 

[JenElio]

For some reason the video didn’t save when I made the post. Here it is again

@Hello_Darkness might be able to help out a bit better now with that video. He's one of the best Techs out there....... literally! He's got the trophy to prove it 🏆 😉

 

[ODAMO]

I have not. Currently mid project on a few targeted areas. Honestly, pretty disappointed with the community on here as not a lot of suggestions provided but who knows….one of them may be the issue.

Just put in two new injector connectors and waiting on the new IACV connector to do as well. I am removing the whole factory intake tube system and putting in a behind the seat snorkel set up.

I still plan on pulling the sensor off the gas pedal to check if there is moisture in it once done with the rest. If none of these fix the issue I will replace the actual throttle cable since I read it can get water in it and may be freezing in sub temps.

Sounds like you need to get a copy of the service manual and start readin up so you can become the master of your own community. Once you know how to fix things then you can work on your communication skills. And please don’t tell us “you’re sorry and have no filter”.
After you come back and post what the solution was you will be well on your way to redemption. Here on the forum anyway

 

[Alaska350]

Sounds like you need to get a copy of the service manual and start readin up so you can become the master of your own community. Once you know how to fix things then you can work on your communication skills. And please don’t tell us “you’re sorry and have no filter”.
After you come back and post what the solution was you will be well on your way to redemption. Here on the forum anyway

I have a service Manual and couldn’t find anything in this.The dealership who also use the service manual have no idea either which is why I posted here asking for help.

Again, I said I was disappointment that I’m the only one that has had this issue, not with the knowledge of the community so settle down meow.

I appreciate your feedback on the issue and your encouragement to keep posting here.

 

[Jerryg]

f there was water in it it would run s***ty all the time from my understanding and not just when super cold after a trailer ride.

Not necessarily. Water separates from gas.

 

[Alaska350]

He isn't wrong, the CA Defender set up is nice, especially for colder climates vs the P1K3/5 with it's cab with more holes than Swiss cheese!

As for your issue, without more info.....code #s, etc.... anything else is a guess, so with that I'm guessing you still have moisture somewhere like inside a sensor (TPS, IACV) or have water inside the airbox.

Not necessarily. Water separates from gas.

The dealership said it was DTC 102-2.

Ok good point, will some HEET do the trick or should I look at draining the tank?

 

[NewHere2]

The dealership said it was DTC 102-2.

Ok good point, will some HEET do the trick or should I look at draining the tank?

Any gas treatment / antifreeze containing Isopropyl Alcohol will help with water in the fuel. Usually in a red container.

 

[NewHere2]

Heet in a yellow container will clump the water in the bottom on the tank. Water stays in tank.

Heet in a red container (isopropyl alcohol) will break down the water and let it burn thru.

 

[Alaska350]

Hert in a yellow container will clump the water in the bottom on the tank. Water stays in tank.

Heet in a red container (isopropyl alcohol) will break down the water and let it burn thru.

I will put some of the red HEET in the tank to give that a go. This whole issue is pretty frustrating honestly. The wheeler only has like 600 miles and the dealership just keeps wanting me to bring it back to them for weeks on end even after I showed them the video of it happening since they couldn’t duplicate it. I want to go riding lol.

 

[Cobber4082]

So sort of related but... I was told once that heet doesnt last forever in the tank to do its job? Once you put it in you need to run that tank out soon and get fresh back in. With as low of miles is it possible you put heet in the tank but never run the water/fuel completely out in a timely manner? Spitballing, someone can come along and 💩 on the theory. 600 miles is what 3-4 tanks total.

 

[john790]

There was a guy same problem read his post New pioneer 1000/5 loss of power accelerating and stalling.Water in the tank.Around the 1 of dec.

 

[Alaska350]

Be a little cautious with the dielectric grease. I’ve seen a guy on another forum cause issues by using too much on the connectors of his truck. The grease is non-conductive so being down in the pins created problems. He had to do a thorough cleaning and use a conductive grease (lightly) to repair.
Most people don’t seem to have any issues like this, but wanted to offer you the warning beforehand.

I’m no expert on the SXS but have been trying to think of things that may help just based on basic troubleshooting. All I can come up with are issues with TPS or IACV like others have mentioned. I assume the Pioneer also has a MAF sensor? If so, that may be another place to look.

Maybe water inside a connector is freezing over to cause open circuit, then allowing connection once thawed. But being inside a sealed connector could be preventing the moisture from dissipating this repeating the cycle.

So sort of related but... I was told once that heet doesnt last forever in the tank to do its job? Once you put it in you need to run that tank out soon and get fresh back in. With as low of miles is it possible you put heet in the tank but never run the water/fuel completely out in a timely manner? Spitballing, someone can come along and 💩 on the theory. 600 miles is what 3-4 tanks total.

I have burned wayyyyy more than 4 tanks since new man. In winter we run in 4x4 and in low due to snow on the trails. I will burn over half a tank just going 35 miles to the glacier in the winter here in Alaska. TONS of stopping to let my dogs out with the wheeler left running to keep that cab warm. But I’m sure you’re right about the heet thing not lasting long in the tank. I take the into account and maybe only start with half a tank but bring extra fuel to ensure it runs to empty.