Multi Tractors & SxS = Workhorses

[HBarlow]

I’m sorry but your blanket statement simply is not true. This is right from your link. Nearly all states say the exact same thing. It’s a spinoff from the Feds.

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1, 3,4 apply to a great majority of non profit persons.

It’s exactly why I can jump into any Diesel pusher RV and drive any where in the US and not even being looked at. Same for loading up my GN horse trailer exceeding 26k and driving to California and back. No special license needed…period.

I think you're confused.

Perhaps you should read ALL of my link posted above again. You completely missed the point in your haste to prove me wrong.

"Unless prohibited by the Commercial Driver License Act, the holder of a valid driver license may drive all vehicles in the class for which that license is issued and all lesser classes except motorcycles.

Class of Non-Commercial Driver License​

Class A, B, C, and M driver licenses are issued to individuals who are exempt from obtaining a commercial driver license (CDL) or who are not required to obtain a CDL.

NOTE: Individuals who are exempt from obtaining a CDL may still be required to obtain a Class A or B driver license if the type of vehicle driven meets the weight requirement for a Class A or B vehicle.

Individuals who are exempt from obtaining a CDL but may need a Class A or B driver license are:

• Operators of recreational vehicles driven for personal use
• Some farmers who meet certain criteria
• Operators of cotton-seed modules or cotton burrs
• A fire-fighting or emergency vehicle operator
• Military vehicle operators
• Vehicles owned, leased or controlled by an air carrier

For more information on exemptions, please refer to the Texas Commercial Motor Vehicle Drivers Handbook.:

SUMMARY:
In Texas and some other states if you are driving a heavy vehicle or towing heavy as described in detail in the statute quoted above and are non-commercial you are exempt from obtaining a CDL BUT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CLASS A OR CLASS BE DRIVERS LICENSE.

You CANNOT drive a diesel pusher motorhome or tow heavy equipment on a gooseneck trailer in Texas and some other states unless you have a CDL or a non-commercial Class A or Class B Operators License.

A possible exception to the rule is farmers and farm hands operating within 100 miles of their farm can get away with driving just about anything on public roadways.

 

[Admin]

 

[trigger]

Almost bought a used little Kubota back in the day but even the subcompact would've been overkill for my needs. Ended up going with a used Dingo, 1/3 of the price, came with the bucket and grapple attachment. I added forks and it does everything I need it to do. Worked the hell out of it last year, using the forks I cut through a 3.5' high dirt hill that was full of rocks, concrete and stumps, like 10' x 60'. Then built a boulder wall with rocks that weighed way more than it's rated for, where there's a will... The hydraulics have more ass than the machine! I was so impressed with that little Toro that I added a used zero turn over the winter.
Representing the little guys.

 

[HBarlow]

A tractor, even a sub-sub compact tractor, is a handy tool if you do any kind of gardening or yard work.

 

[Scrappapotamus]

We just hauled back 3 loads from the Farm Machinery Show in Louisville Kentucky yesterday. The large tractors we use are tiny in comparison to some of the tractors that were on display there. Anyone make the show?

 

[The Green Goat]

So I might be dipping my toes into this club. I'm not super familiar with what I might need, so I figured I'd see what you guys thought.

Me/my family might be buying some land (160ac) here soon and it's quickly becoming evident that I'll need some machinery to clear/clean up/keep up with all of it. It's 99% mature woods, probably 60% are mature white and scotch pines that are HUGE (like, 2ft diameter, 80+ft tall. The rest is a mix of various hardwoods; maple, oaks, some beech, hickory, and lots of poplar. There is a LOT of green briar in various areas that needs some serious thinning. I intend on keeping it mostly wooded but will need to clear out several areas/acres to build a new home and shop, and maybe a few food plots, and perhaps a small pasture if I really go off the deep end. The topography is mostly rolling with an ephemeral creek that runs through the middle. There is a good mixture of flat areas. gentle rolling hills, and shear drop offs in some areas.

Now, I have no doubt that my p5 will topple these trees and drag them out (😁), but I'd like to have some other accessories as well that a p5 can't accommodate. At a minimum I feel like I'd need a flail mower with hammers, a grapple, pallet forks, an excavator of some sort, and eventually a tiller would be nice. I don't intend on grinding trees to a pulp, so a forestry mulcher probably wouldn't be required, not to mention that they cost a small fortune. It would be fun to play with though.

I'm not super familiar with tractor sizing, but I figured something in the 50hp range would be appropriate, like a JD 4 or 5 series or whatever other brand equivalent is.

Another thing I stumbled upon that would be pretty sweet and probably super stable on the hills is this thing. Not too much more than a tractor would be. 50hp. 27GPM HF hydraulics. Weighs 10k lb. only travels at 4.7mph though. Obviously doesn't have a PTO but wouldn't need one if I bought skid steer accessories that are HiFlow hydraulic driven instead. Would be nice to manipulate a flail mower around the woods with this on the front rather than it being on the back of a tractor. Plus, a guy would probably "mow" tree branches with that setup if he needed to.

Thoughts on all of this rambling?

 

[500oneer]

What I would do is get a used 30 to 50 hp tractor with a bucket and brush hog and rent a skid loader when needed. Skid loaders are great and fast when making trails or busting brush and moving stone. Doing that with a tractor takes forever.

 

[The Green Goat]

What I would do is get a used 30 to 50 hp tractor with a bucket and brush hog and rent a skid loader when needed. Skid loaders are great and fast when making trails or busting brush and moving stone. Doing that with a tractor takes forever.

But could I put AR500 steel armor plating on a tractor if I was compelled to?

 

[Scrappapotamus]

When purchasing a tractor, always base your purchase on PTO HP and lift capacity of the loader. A real tractor is going to have more lift capacity, increased breakout force and a heavier driveline which will last longer than something smaller. Replacing a driveline or PTO clutch usually requires having to split the tractor, thus a heavier driveline assures you can run a brush cutter that will cut larger diameter items with less issues. Personally, I would look at a Track Loader with High Flow hydraulics. There are all sorts of attachments for these and considering you may be running on hilly ground, you're going to be much safer doing so. A 25 to 50 HP tractor is usually light and lacking on HP and lift capacity. I would look towards 50 to 90 HP. I rented a Cat Dozer this past weekend to correct some drainage issues, remove some brush and trees and cut a new trail through the woods. I also borrowed a 90+ HP Track Loader from the store to clean up some trash in the woods and pile everything up in several burn piles. Both machines were cab units so the snow and temperatures weren't an issue. If I had a larger place, I'd have a dozer

 

[Vikes79]

So I might be dipping my toes into this club. I'm not super familiar with what I might need, so I figured I'd see what you guys thought.

Me/my family might be buying some land (160ac) here soon and it's quickly becoming evident that I'll need some machinery to clear/clean up/keep up with all of it. It's 99% mature woods, probably 60% are mature white and scotch pines that are HUGE (like, 2ft diameter, 80+ft tall. The rest is a mix of various hardwoods; maple, oaks, some beech, hickory, and lots of poplar. There is a LOT of green briar in various areas that needs some serious thinning. I intend on keeping it mostly wooded but will need to clear out several areas/acres to build a new home and shop, and maybe a few food plots, and perhaps a small pasture if I really go off the deep end. The topography is mostly rolling with an ephemeral creek that runs through the middle. There is a good mixture of flat areas. gentle rolling hills, and shear drop offs in some areas.

Now, I have no doubt that my p5 will topple these trees and drag them out (😁), but I'd like to have some other accessories as well that a p5 can't accommodate. At a minimum I feel like I'd need a flail mower with hammers, a grapple, pallet forks, an excavator of some sort, and eventually a tiller would be nice. I don't intend on grinding trees to a pulp, so a forestry mulcher probably wouldn't be required, not to mention that they cost a small fortune. It would be fun to play with though.

I'm not super familiar with tractor sizing, but I figured something in the 50hp range would be appropriate, like a JD 4 or 5 series or whatever other brand equivalent is.

Another thing I stumbled upon that would be pretty sweet and probably super stable on the hills is this thing. Not too much more than a tractor would be. 50hp. 27GPM HF hydraulics. Weighs 10k lb. only travels at 4.7mph though. Obviously doesn't have a PTO but wouldn't need one if I bought skid steer accessories that are HiFlow hydraulic driven instead. Would be nice to manipulate a flail mower around the woods with this on the front rather than it being on the back of a tractor. Plus, a guy would probably "mow" tree branches with that setup if he needed to.

Thoughts on all of this rambling?

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Skidsteer will be far more effective than a tractor for clearing of brush and property cleanup. You don’t need anything fancy. My 35hp Gehl with this brush mower makes very short work of saplings and trashy brush. With its brush grapple I can clean up in between the trees with ease and can lift up to 2000lbs.
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You can also easily rent attachments for it as well.

Over the years I’ve added a tree / post puller, brush grapple, post hole digger and a stump grinding bit, and the brush cutter.

You’ll be amazed at the size of tree a small skidsteer can manipulate.

 

[The Green Goat]

Skidsteer will be far more effective than a tractor for clearing of brush and property cleanup. You don’t need anything fancy. My 35hp Gehl with this brush mower makes very short work of saplings and trashy brush. With its brush grapple I can clean up in between the trees with ease and can lift up to 2000lbs.
Post in thread 'Tractors & SxS = Workhorses'

You can also easily rent attachments for it as well.

Over the years I’ve added a tree / post puller, brush grapple, post hole digger and a stump grinding bit, and the brush cutter.

You’ll be amazed at the size of tree a small skidsteer can manipulate.

Isn't that this thread? 😆

 

[Vikes79]

Isn't that this thread? 😆

Yep lol was trying to link to the post about my brush cutter

Multi - Tractors & SxS = Workhorses

More to come as funding allows. Backhoe is next on the list. Man I would love to have one of those for a week!

hondasxs.com

 

[oldfortyfive]

I've been looking at a mini-skid steer for my couple acres. Anyone have any experience with these?

 

[eolesen]

Having had access to a skidsteer from a family member as we've been developing our property, I definitely want one. Nothing better for leveling out a pad or trail.

We bought a trencher attachment that did a 500 ft water line in about 8 hours. Would have been months by hand....

Hoping he will eventually upsize and maybe be willing to part with the one we've used.

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[trigger]

I've been looking at a mini-skid steer for my couple acres. Anyone have any experience with these?

Yep, it's in this thread. I have a Toro Dingo.

 

[Robobrainiac]

Isn't that this thread? 😆

Others had some good points. I would recommend big tractor and decent skid steer. Lift capacity is key. The 50hp range you mentioned should be good. I would like to point out something I have not seen others mention. If I remember correctly John deere has their own loader attachment system. Other brands like my Kubota use a skid steer system. So things like a bucket, or hay spear, or forks could be interchanged between the tractor and skid steer.

Skid steer operators make good money if you are interested in renting yourself out.

Skid steers will do almost everything a tractor can but faster and more stable.

Most tractors struggle keeping the backend down when attempting to uproot trees.

 

[Tramguage1]

Been a while since I posted to this thread, I have added a few quick attach attachment to my ansonal.
Fist is an 8' land plane, absolutely the best way to work my driveway!

Next is a grapple that came with my backhoe.

Got tired of digging post holes the old-fashioned way!

Don't have any kids around the house anymore, so I have to have equipment to take up the slack!

Now I'm looking into a cement mixer attachment. I am getting WAY to old to mix that stuff by hand.

 

[Tramguage1]

I've been looking at a mini-skid steer for my couple acres. Anyone have any experience with these?

I would say a good skid steer would be an awesome tool to have.
Just a few of my thoughts on what you should think about when looking.

Universal quick connect front bucket.

Make sure the hydraulic output is adequate for any attachments your thinking about.

Cost and availability of parts

Tracks or tires

HP of the machine, in my research there was a big jump in cost from say 50hp to the next jump of around 100hp.

What brand of dealers are close to you if you need parts quick.

I actually was able to pick up a used backhoe and a tractor for just a little less than the cost of a new 100hp skid steer.

 

[Robobrainiac]

Been a while since I posted to this thread, I have added a few quick attach attachment to my ansonal.
Fist is an 8' land plane, absolutely the best way to work my driveway!
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Next is a grapple that came with my backhoe.
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Got tired of digging post holes the old-fashioned way!
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Don't have any kids around the house anymore, so I have to have equipment to take up the slack!
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Now I'm looking into a cement mixer attachment. I am getting WAY to old to mix that stuff by hand.

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Do you have experience with comparing a box blade to the scraper on gravel drives?

 

[Vondy]

Do you have experience with comparing a box blade to the scraper on gravel drives?

The grade scrapper(aka land plane) is hands down better than a box blade in my opinion. Very ease to maintain gravel drive with and you'll save a bunch in gravel. Got the grader scrapper several years ago, box blade hasnt moved since, really need to just sell it.

 

[ChadD]

Yep, it's in this thread. I have a Toro Dingo.

🤦‍♂️ bragging about your dingo on the internet.
Next thing you know you'll be looking at yamaha's 🙄🦩🤣