Multi Shots from the trail.

[PJon]

Good job @DG Rider

Glad that you made it through without problems.

 

[Admin]

 

[DG Rider]

The tracks I had ended somewhere around here, but my goal was Turkey Creek canyon/Aravaipa canyon, so a peek at my topo app (downloaded. NO CELL here at all), and saw that the road heading up behind the old house looked to go in the general direction. It eventually gets ridge top and follows it down to the edge of the canyon in some pretty rough country...though the road itself is in pretty good shape...

Along the way was this old fridge...

 

[DG Rider]

Once down into the canyon, it was the swath of trees and vegetation that I expected...albeit, without running water here. There was an old house...so to speak...

Heading on down, I started to see a few people, and by the time I got to Aravaipa canyon wilderness, there were several people parked and camping. And I finally found the water...

After eating lunch to the sound of running water, I made my way back across to Mammoth and took some side roads, and found some old.... something? Mining stuff, I guess...

As usual, more side roads to explore in the future.

 

[DG Rider]

Good job @DG Rider

Glad that you made it through without problems.

Thanks again for the tracks.

 

[DG Rider]

 

[PJon]

You must have pretty good range with your 700. The guys I rode with were getting concerned about fuel. The forest service or county was working on upgrading the road continuing from Parson‘s Grove the first time I was there in March 2021.

 

[DG Rider]

You must have pretty good range with your 700. The guys I rode with were getting concerned about fuel. The forest service or county was working on upgrading the road continuing from Parson‘s Grove the first time I was there in March 2021.

I did 58 miles and had 3 bars (out of 5) left. The relative speed of the graded areas being offset by the slow going of the rough sections probably makes it even out, and about ~20 miles per bar is about my experience with a 700.

CVTs tend to eat gas, comparatively. Someone tested your 1k a few years back against, IIRC, a wolverine 4 seater and maybe a Teryx 4, and they commented on how the Pioneer got noticeably better milage despite having a bigger engine.

That road on over to Turkey Creek had lots of blading done. All kind of marks in the solid rock. That section where it went right down a solid rock chute (like a PG Hells Revenge) was pretty cool. I should have taken a picture of it.

 

[CID]

I did 58 miles and had 3 bars (out of 5) left. The relative speed of the graded areas being offset by the slow going of the rough sections probably makes it even out, and about ~20 miles per bar is about my experience with a 700.

CVTs tend to eat gas, comparatively. Someone tested your 1k a few years back against, IIRC, a wolverine 4 seater and maybe a Teryx 4, and they commented on how the Pioneer got noticeably better milage despite having a bigger engine.

That road on over to Turkey Creek had lots of blading done. All kind of marks in the solid rock. That section where it went right down a solid rock chute (like a PG Hells Revenge) was pretty cool. I should have taken a picture of it.

I rode with a Polaris something or other for two days. The Talon got ~40% better mileage than that POS.

 

[PJon]

I did 58 miles and had 3 bars (out of 5) left. The relative speed of the graded areas being offset by the slow going of the rough sections probably makes it even out, and about ~20 miles per bar is about my experience with a 700.

CVTs tend to eat gas, comparatively. Someone tested your 1k a few years back against, IIRC, a wolverine 4 seater and maybe a Teryx 4, and they commented on how the Pioneer got noticeably better milage despite having a bigger engine.

That road on over to Turkey Creek had lots of blading done. All kind of marks in the solid rock. That section where it went right down a solid rock chute (like a PG Hells Revenge) was pretty cool. I should have taken a picture of it.

Part of the difference for us is that we didn’t trailer, so that adds another 40 or so miles to the ride. I’m pretty sure that my trip odometer was showing around 95 miles for the day. I keep a record of all the gas I’ve put in mine since new and I’m still right at 20 mpg.

 

[DG Rider]

Part of the difference for us is that we didn’t trailer, so that adds another 40 or so miles to the ride. I’m pretty sure that my trip odometer was showing around 95 miles for the day. I keep a record of all the gas I’ve put in mine since new and I’m still right at 20 mpg.

Yeah...that makes sense. 100-120 before the low fuel light is about typical on a 700, but haven't run it down that low in a long time.

 

[PJon]

Yeah...that makes sense. 100-120 before the low fuel light is about typical on a 700, but haven't run it down that low in a long time.

I’ve never tested mine to see when it would run out, but have done 120 mile rides without the low fuel light coming on. The others in the group riding PoPo’s stopped at the 100 mile mark to fuel.

 

[HBarlow]

DG, your photos of the ruins fascinate me. I always study them and wonder about the people who built the homes, mines, and other structures, their daily lives, what hardships they encountered, and what caused them to abandon what they built.

 

[Rayger143]

DG, your photos of the ruins fascinate me. I always study them and wonder about the people who built the homes, mines, and other structures, their daily lives, what hardships they encountered, and what caused them to abandon what they built.

X2 for me. I want to see a lot of the areas that @DG Rider posts. So much different terrain than what I’m used to seeing.

 

[PJon]

X2 for me. I want to see a lot of the areas that @DG Rider posts. So much different terrain than what I’m used to seeing.

The terrain is definitely different, went on a ride today up Copper Creek east of Mammoth, AZ and it’s surprising how much it has changed. There is a lot of new exploration for copper going on. The trails which used to require 4 low are now passable in 2 high, but some of the old mines are still there. Knowing how hard it would have been to get in and out of these remote areas, I doubt that the miners had a balanced diet. Probably hard tack and whatever wild game they could take. Getting to a town would have been at least a days ride on a horse, if they had one.

 

[Rayger143]

The terrain is definitely different, went on a ride today up Copper Creek east of Mammoth, AZ and it’s surprising how much it has changed. There is a lot of new exploration for copper going on. The trails which used to require 4 low are now passable in 2 high, but some of the old mines are still there. Knowing how hard it would have been to get in and out of these remote areas, I doubt that the miners had a balanced diet. Probably hard tack and whatever wild game they could take. Getting to a town would have been at least a days ride on a horse, if they had one.

From what I see in your area is it can change drastically in a short time. The trails I ride might grow in with brush but the ground never changes. The only situation I have to watch is crossing a creek in the spring. If you cross in the morning and its deep, it’s gonna be deeper if you come back later.

 

[HBarlow]

From what I see in your area is it can change drastically in a short time. The trails I ride might grow in with brush but the ground never changes. The only situation I have to watch is crossing a creek in the spring. If you cross in the morning and its deep, it’s gonna be deeper if you come back later.

Why? Melting of winter snow up in the mountains?

 

[Rayger143]

Why? Melting of winter snow up in the mountains?

Yes. Spring run off increases with the heat of the day and slows when it cools down at night

 

[CID]

Today's ride was Metal Masher (blue track, ridden CCW), and no metal was mashed. 😍 Upper left corner is Widow Maker (top end of orange track), an 8' wall, winch only, like hanging yerself from a tree (which we did). No photos but some video that'll have to wait til I get home after Thanksgiving.

Widow Maker last April, pullin' cable -

 

[Rayger143]

My ride today

 

[HBarlow]

Today's ride was Metal Masher (blue track, ridden CCW), and no metal was mashed. 😍 Upper left corner is Widow Maker (top end of orange track), an 8' wall, winch only, like hanging yerself from a tree (which we did). No photos but some video that'll have to wait til I get home after Thanksgiving.

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Widow Maker last April, pullin' cable -
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Did the Talon make that climb without a tow or use of a winch?