P1000 P1000 clutch change question

[Bastardchild]

Hey yall! Im gonna be changing out the wifes clutches on her 2018 P1000-5 this weekend. The last time the dealer changed them and screwed me out of $1339. This time Im changing them. I think only one is bad, but Im gonna change them both and have a spare on the shelf for the future. I had a quick question though for people who have done it: Should I soak the clutch baskets in the Honda oil to let oil soak into the clutch basket a few days beforehand? This is a trick I was taught by my Dad when I was a kid when changing out clutch discs in my various 3 wheelers, dirtbikes, and 4 wheelers I had growing up. Im assuming the oil in the crankcase gets inside the clutch packs on the P1000 and gets between discs, but Im not 100%. Thanks for any input!! Yall be safe out there!

 

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[Pilotadam]

Yes, I is highly recommended to pre soak the clutches. I did on mine and didn't have any problems. You will also need to drain the engine oil.

Hardest part was getting to line up putting them back in. It took me several tries.

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[HondaTech]

I just put them in a pan of new oil before reassembly. Their going to get covered when started. As long as their not dry they'll be fine.

Leave the outer clutch apart, it makes assembly easier. Put the clutch center hub in the stack the plates. Way easier that way.

 

[Bastardchild]

Thank yall!! I thought I was thinking right but figured I would ask. Consider it done. I appreciate it!!

 

[HBarlow]

What are the symptoms leading to clutch replacement?

 

[Pilotadam]

Mine was high reving before it would shift, and it felt like it would not take off. My 1st,3rd, 5th were gone.

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[Todd627]

Soak 'em in Crunk Juice and you'll never have another issue 😜

 

[HBarlow]

Mine was high reving before it would shift, and it felt like it would not take off. My 1st,3rd, 5th were gone.

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Thanks. That sounds right.

Does the condition show up in a certain mileage range?

 

[Pilotadam]

Not sure, we messed our up cutting down some trees. Driver error giving it gas and the tires were not turning. Burnt up the 1st gear clutch.

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[HBarlow]

Not sure, we messed our up cutting down some trees. Driver error giving it gas and the tires were not turning. Burnt up the 1st gear clutch.

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It's refreshing to see an honest man own his mistake. Thank you.

This is helpful information for all owners to realize what happens when the DCT is power-stalled and the buggy cannot move.

 

[Pilotadam]

Yep learned the hard way to inform people driving my buggy how clutch work. It sad with the lack of manual transmission how many people don't understand how a clutch works vs a torque converter.

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[Hondasxs]

It sad with the lack of manual transmission how many people don't understand how a clutch works vs a torque converter.

BINGO..
This is 95% of the clutch issues.
But... I do think Honda should of invented a solution.

 

[Bastardchild]

What are the symptoms leading to clutch replacement?

RPMs revving as it changes gears. It changes from odd to even gears fine, but changing from even to odd gears the RPMs rev before it changes. Same as the first time.

 

[Bastardchild]

Soak 'em in Crunk Juice and you'll never have another issue 😜

I think Crunk Juice played a part in burning them up. She knows better than to keep giving it gas trying to get it to move if the thick mud has suction on the tires and the tires aint spinning. She went riding with her girlfriends while I stayed home and worked on the houseboat. She came home later that night and "Surprise! My clutches are burned up again!" I really hate this machine.

 

[HBarlow]

RPMs revving as it changes gears. It changes from odd to even gears fine, but changing from even to odd gears the RPMs rev before it changes. Same as the first time.

I'm not a mechanic and have never worked on mine but that symptom suggests the clutch for the gear set containing 1-3-5 is slipping on engagement. Does it also slip on start up from a full stop?

 

[Bastardchild]

I'm not a mechanic and have never worked on mine but that symptom suggests the clutch for the gear set containing 1-3-5 is slipping on engagement. Does it also slip on start up from a full stop?

Yep. Thats the same thing I figured. Exact same symptoms as last time. I think one clutch should be good and the other bad. I plan on changing them both out and keeping the good one as a spare.

 

[HBarlow]

I agree with your thinking. It make sense to replace both while you're in it.

Is it a reasonable do-it-yourself project?

 

[Pilotadam]

Not a hard project just take your time. It was about as hard as changing the CVT belt on my old Teryx. If you search this site there are some good write up on how to do it

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[Bastardchild]

I agree with your thinking. It make sense to replace both while you're in it.

Is it a reasonable do-it-yourself project?

My buddy replaced his on his P1000 a few years ago and he said the hardest part about it was pulling the rear floor pan, dropping the skid plate, and pressure cleaning all around the back of the engine. He said the clutch change out was simple. He said he did it in like 3 1/2 hours. He didnt pull the bed. I decided to pull the bed. I took it off Monday after work and it was a pain in the ass. I started pulling the rear floor pan Tuesday after work. Got the rear pan completely out today after work and I pressure washed all around the back of the engine. Gonna drop the skid Thursday after work and probably get on the underneath side with the pressure washer. Then I plan on draining the oil and filters Thursday night. I will get to taking everything apart probably Friday because its my day off or maybe Saturday.

 

[Russ989]

My buddy replaced his on his P1000 a few years ago and he said the hardest part about it was pulling the rear floor pan, dropping the skid plate, and pressure cleaning all around the back of the engine. He said the clutch change out was simple. He said he did it in like 3 1/2 hours. He didnt pull the bed. I decided to pull the bed. I took it off Monday after work and it was a pain in the ass. I started pulling the rear floor pan Tuesday after work. Got the rear pan completely out today after work and I pressure washed all around the back of the engine. Gonna drop the skid Thursday after work and probably get on the underneath side with the pressure washer. Then I plan on draining the oil and filters Thursday night. I will get to taking everything apart probably Friday because its my day off or maybe Saturday.

I think @CumminsPusher did a write up on this. Mine has had a slight rev between gears since day one off the showroom floor.