P1000 Novice with a winch

[Vikes79]

Fortunately the 2022 Trail comes with a belly pan of sorts. It’s not metal but it seemed to work!

Yeah they do come with something that’s a bit better than a sheet of cardboard.

It’s an extremely common upgrade that also helps to reduce sticks and junk from coming up through the lower portions of the floor.

Most go the entire width and length of the rig, the oem only does parts of the middle.

 

[Admin]

 

[NewHere2]

Yeah they do come with something that’s a bit better than a sheet of cardboard.

It’s an extremely common upgrade that also helps to reduce sticks and junk from coming up through the lower portions of the floor.

Most go the entire width and length of the rig, the oem only does parts of the middle.

$600 - $800 for a quality skid plate is a lot cheaper than taking someone to an ER.

 

[CID]

$600 - $800 for a quality skid plate is a lot cheaper than taking someone to an ER.

People will heal, bent frame members, on the other hand, have to be fixt.

 

[StewB]

Thank you all for your suggestions! I do have a strap but need to get a heavy duty pulley.
I’ll have to educate myself on winch usage before my next episode. I didn’t think about the load while paying out the cable causing heat.
Does it require a second battery? What about rope vs cable?
Having a winch is a good thing but not knowing anything about it makes it useless.

The pulley you need is called a snatch block. These straddle then attach around the cable/rope. Tractor Supply or Amazon are good sources.
You don't need a second battery for random winching. I use my winch to lift a plow blade. That's a lot of winching, so a second battery helps avoid heavy drain.
Search this board and you'll find people's opinions re synthetic rope v. wire cable. There are pros and cons. For example, wire line can snap and slingshot at you; synthetic will not. Synthetic must avoid abrasion and sharp edges.
I use wire. My primary use is plowing, which wears the last 4 feet of the cable. About every other year I cut off the frayed end and use three u-bolt clamps to reattach.
Watch yoootoob how to videos for safety and other tips.
Sometimes you should use a remote for safety purposes - can keep you out of harm's way.
Good luck.

 

[Scoop]

Winching is a skill you can really only learn by doing dumb stuff.

Well, now, that explains why @TripleB is such an expert at it!

 

[Scoop]

belly pan of sorts.

It's a POS, but I define it differently than 'pan of sorts'.

 

[TripleB]

Well, now, that explains why @TripleB is such an expert at it!

We never would've made it home Monday without winches. Ran up on this widowmaker at the end of the trail on the way home. Hill was too rough and steep to back out and too narrow to turn around. Had to winch the front ends up the bank just to get the machine to wedge under the tree. Then power through underneath the tree and praying the tree didn't break on off.

 

[futzin]

Well done!!

 

[john790]

Just remember when at idle it barely charges

 

[CID]

Just remember when at idle it barely charges

I'd add, even at max alternator capacity, there's no way it will keep up with a winch's draw - all the more reason for an isolated second battery.

 

[NewHere2]

I'd add, even at max alternator capacity, there's no way it will keep up with a winch's draw - all the more reason for an isolated second battery.

X2

 

[KevP700-4]

Free spool pay out of the cable saves the battery as said, also much faster. Keep your winch spool lubed, just a few drops of oil at ends of the spool each year at annual maint., Keep engine revs up while using the winch multiple times so to keep your battery charging to the max available. Installing a winch battery is a smart move, but it too gets tired after multiple runs. Might want to occasionally run a oily rag over the extended cable to keep it from rusting and binding on the spool. Never pull the cable fully out, always keep two or three wraps on the spool before putting the winch to work. Watch those cables/ropes they do break once in a while.

Yup, get a tree strap, snatch block and a 30' strap/rope/cable to extend your 50' spool cable reach, the tree you need to pull from is not always within 45' of your winch spool, ask me how i know. These also help when pulling a friend out of trouble. Check Harbor Freight for basic emergency supplies.

Warn Corp. has videos and lots of great advice on winch usage.

 

[PapasTrail]

Free spool pay out of the cable saves the battery as said, also much faster. Keep your winch spool lubed, just a few drops of oil at ends of the spool each year at annual maint., Keep engine revs up while using the winch multiple times so to keep your battery charging to the max available. Installing a winch battery is a smart move, but it too gets tired after multiple runs. Might want to occasionally run a oily rag over the extended cable to keep it from rusting and binding on the spool. Never pull the cable fully out, always keep two or three wraps on the spool before putting the winch to work. Watch those cables/ropes they do break once in a while.

Yup, get a tree strap, snatch block and a 30' strap/rope/cable to extend your 50' spool cable reach, the tree you need to pull from is not always within 45' of your winch spool, ask me how i know. These also help when pulling a friend out of trouble. Check Harbor Freight for basic emergency supplies.

Warn Corp. has videos and lots of great advice on winch usage.

Thanks for all the great responses! I bought a snatch block, a tree saver, a sling strap, and a couple of shackles from Harbor Freight!
I replaced the cable with a synthetic rope because I damaged the cable when I bent the fairlead… hopefully I’ll never have to use this stuff but it’s like having a handgun. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it!
Next on my list is an entrenching tool. I really wish this P1000 had more storage compartments!

 

[KevP700-4]

There ya go, you’re all set. Stay out of the sink holes😂

Storage, that’s what the roof is for.

 

[KevP700-4]

Papas Trail, you might want to pickup a cheap tool bag at HF to hold all the new stuff. Doesn’t need to be large. We have one and just strap it in back when we go riding. Ours will also fit under the front hood if needed, or in the rear footwells for the 700-4.

 

[bumperm]

See the door storage mod thread/s, the inside of the rear doors provides a fair amount of storage space.

 

[StewB]

Mesh storage bags can be held up under the roof with ratchet straps.
I posted this photo on another thread but thought I would add it here.
One of my mesh storage bags can be seen. It holds a lot of stuff and you can still wash your machine without having to unload the storage.

 

[futzin]

I really wish this P1000 had more storage compartments!

Try a P500 for storage . . . yuh, riiight . . .

 

[Prospector16]

Get yourself a tree strap and a snatch block. This will double your pulling power and easier on your winch and battery.

Where are you attaching the cable to on the front of the Pioneer (for those of us with no front hitch). Does not seem to be any logical, easy location.

 

[Vikes79]

Where are you attaching the cable to on the front of the Pioneer (for those of us with no front hitch). Does not seem to be any logical, easy location.

Just loop the strap on the bumper tube. It’s actually quite strong.