Not Trail Ready?

[futzin]

Just a quick thought:

Been surprised lately (having never paid a bit of attention before ) to the amount of add-ons to the Talon to make it 'trail ready'. I realize this means different things to different people.
Coming from a history of P5s (a dinky economy utility machine) that I somehow became convinced could be a trail machine, I realize it takes a few (up to several) thousand $$ to convert it to a "trail" machine. It seems that it takes that or even more for the Talon (a Sport/Trail machine). I'm not bashing, but I am a bit bemused.
Seems the P1K may take less dinero to make ready for the mountains.

And maybe that's just it; the Talon is supposed to be a bomber. The P1K can be whatever maybe.

Anyhow, not meaning to be demeaning. But wow, lots of cash to make a sport machine ready for trails. As much or more than for a utility machine, unless I'm missing something. Is it to go faster, mainly?

Obviously, I'm not a target customer!

 

[Admin]

 

[Scrappapotamus]

There's an Ass for every Seat

 

[futzin]

There's an Ass for every Seat

Good thing.

 

[futzin]

I'm sure all manufacturers Sport machines need tweaking, it just seems odd to me that they may need as much money spent on them as a utility machine to go ride the trails.

I guess the point is that they do it faster and possibly more comfortably.

Rock on . . .

 

[Vikes79]

Just a quick thought:

Been surprised lately (having never paid a bit of attention before ) to the amount of add-ons to the Talon to make it 'trail ready'. I realize this means different things to different people.
Coming from a history of P5s (a dinky economy utility machine) that I somehow became convinced could be a trail machine, I realize it takes a few (up to several) thousand $$ to convert it to a "trail" machine. It seems that it takes that or even more for the Talon (a Sport/Trail machine). I'm not bashing, but I am a bit bemused.
Seems the P1K may take less dinero to make ready for the mountains.

And maybe that's just it; the Talon is supposed to be a bomber. The P1K can be whatever maybe.

Anyhow, not meaning to be demeaning. But wow, lots of cash to make a sport machine ready for trails. As much or more than for a utility machine, unless I'm missing something. Is it to go faster, mainly?

Obviously, I'm not a target customer!

I was just thinking the same thing…I basically just hammered most of the dents outta my mostly stock wrecked talon and drug it over a lot of rocks and timber a few months ago. I’m surprised the factory skid plastic thing wasn’t ripped off…it’s definitely better than the pioneer. IMO the talon is trail ready outta the box….I see a lot of customization being passed as necessity, but it’s just preference I’d argue…or at least the story told to the spouse lol.

It’s only money I guess.

But I do agree a p1k with a skid plate only will go and go and go etc.

 

[Hello_Darkness]

I'm sure all manufacturers Sport machines need tweaking, it just seems odd to me that they may need as much money spent on them as a utility machine to go ride the trails.

I guess the point is that they do it faster and possibly more comfortably.

Rock on . . .

Just depends on how much offroad you wnat to experience

I know guys who've taken them out of our parking lot and straight into the woods

Then some think they need to turn it into a Pioneer before they can take their Talon anyway other than the garage.

 

[CID]

I just closed my eyes and wrote checks when setting up my Talon. I had cut corners for my entire 50 year off road motorcycling career and decided that I can't take it with me. Trail Armor skid , winch, rear radius rods, beadlocks, quick disc. sway bar links, bed extender/spare carrier , storage box, recovery gear, under hood storage, fender extenders and a bunch of little crap - it doesn't take long to spend too much.

And I didn't do nearly as much as many here have done.

 

[Scrappapotamus]

I feel it boils down to what floats your boat and how fail proof you want your machine to be? I prefer to run at a good clip on the trails, rip up a hillside or drop off a ledge. There are only so many things that can be done to a P5 or P700. There's a lot more available to make a P1K handle better and go faster safer, but the limitation to those machines is its core design, yet Triple B can do anything everyone else does? A Talon is more capable than a P1K with less sketch and can be fine tuned to go from a very capable machine to something more reliable, stable and quicker. I realize this isn't everyone's thing, but considering the amount of products available for the P1K platform and Talon, one could deduct there's much more interest and demand for modding these machines. I've ridden an older Kawasaki Mule 2510 and 3010, a Kubota RTV-X1120 Offroad, and Windsock in a Kubota Sidekick and had fun doing so. I moved up to a P1K-5 and had a blast, but after studying the Talon platform, here I am. I still have my Pioneer and hope to take it off-roading soon. I get my affliction from years of riding motorcycles off road and racing GNCC. First, you need to finish and 2nd place is always the first place loser. Party on Garth

 

[lowranger]

Just a quick thought:

Been surprised lately (having never paid a bit of attention before ) to the amount of add-ons to the Talon to make it 'trail ready'. I realize this means different things to different people.
Coming from a history of P5s (a dinky economy utility machine) that I somehow became convinced could be a trail machine, I realize it takes a few (up to several) thousand $$ to convert it to a "trail" machine. It seems that it takes that or even more for the Talon (a Sport/Trail machine). I'm not bashing, but I am a bit bemused.
Seems the P1K may take less dinero to make ready for the mountains.

And maybe that's just it; the Talon is supposed to be a bomber. The P1K can be whatever maybe.

Anyhow, not meaning to be demeaning. But wow, lots of cash to make a sport machine ready for trails. As much or more than for a utility machine, unless I'm missing something. Is it to go faster, mainly?

Obviously, I'm not a target customer!

Like others have said, it depends on what kind of trail you want to go on? You going to tackle rough trails at Moab? Or you just going to do easier trails? I took my Talon out of the box and started enjoying it on easy trails and had a blast. Later on as I used it, I figured out a few things I would like to have to make the ride more enjoyable and as extra money came available. Added a front windshield and back window. Then a few other things over time.

 

[Jankyeye]

I have way less aftermarket money in the Talon than in the P1K, so far... skid plate, stereo, windshield, seem standard regardless of the machine. Really the only Talon specific mod is the intake pre filter, but you can do that for the others also. You do know we are all just trying to make it as capable as the 500/520.

 

[futzin]

You do know we are all just trying to make it as capable as the 500/520.

I got some 24" turf tires for ya . . . 😁

 

[DRZRon1]

Just a quick thought:

Been surprised lately (having never paid a bit of attention before ) to the amount of add-ons to the Talon to make it 'trail ready'. I realize this means different things to different people.
Coming from a history of P5s (a dinky economy utility machine) that I somehow became convinced could be a trail machine, I realize it takes a few (up to several) thousand $$ to convert it to a "trail" machine. It seems that it takes that or even more for the Talon (a Sport/Trail machine). I'm not bashing, but I am a bit bemused.
Seems the P1K may take less dinero to make ready for the mountains.

And maybe that's just it; the Talon is supposed to be a bomber. The P1K can be whatever maybe.

Anyhow, not meaning to be demeaning. But wow, lots of cash to make a sport machine ready for trails. As much or more than for a utility machine, unless I'm missing something. Is it to go faster, mainly?

Obviously, I'm not a target customer!

to each their own - we all just wanna ride - everyone spends their money different so all good

I have very little $$ into my talon other than suspension - what I do have for the most part is built/not bought, and just carry a small Dewalt tool bag with the basics for a trailside repair and just go ride,

my only advice for anyone owning\buying a 'pre 24 machine - spring for the suspension retune if it wasn't already addressed as the first/#1 thing to throw money at...winches/whip lites/3 batteries cant make it comfortable - lol....

 

[The Green Goat]

So which one of you bought a Talon.....?

Fess up.

 

[TripleB]

So which one of you bought a Talon.....?

Fess up.

It was 10:46 pm when he made this post. I believe he was just talking plumber s*** aka drunk s***.

 

[Jankyeye]

We all know the real answer is that we just cant leave things alone...

 

[The Green Goat]

It was 10:46 pm when he made this post. I believe he was just talking plumber s*** aka drunk s***.

You're likely correct.

 

[KyGal83]

So which one of you bought a Talon.....?

Fess up.

🤷‍♀️🤐

 

[futzin]

It was 10:46 pm when he made this post. I believe he was just talking plumber s*** aka drunk s***.

Nope.

Just seems like Talon needs as much or more than a utility machine for comparable trails.
That's a sobering thought. 😁

 

[futzin]

I guess I could also have asked,
What's the minimum a Talon needs?

 

[DRZRon1]

I guess I could also have asked,
What's the minimum a Talon needs?

helmet/goggles/tank of gas/pressure on skinny pedal and some work to the Boingers for comfort