P1000 New vs Used

[Fenahs]

So after putting down a deposit in May for a 1000-5 that was supposed to be delivered at the end of July I was just told the “newest” delivery list says mid-October. Disappointed of course, but not surprised. So am now checking out the used market. The prices are certainly not cheap but it seems that I can get a slightly used (2018 deluxe w/3000mi’s) that has most of the upgrades i’m looking for (probably ~4K worth) for slightly less than I was going to spend for a base model with no upgrades. It seems like a pretty good way to go, but my question to the knowledgeable masses is this: Is 3,000 miles relatively “low” for Pioneers? And what are some things I should ask and/or check on a used vehicle before buying? Any insights are welcome. Thanks.

 

[Admin]

 

[Jerryg]

New Yamaha Wolverine.

 

[Fenahs]

New Yamaha Wolverine.

Oh, thank you, that was so helpful.
Maybe go troll somewhere else?

 

[Jerryg]

Oh, thank you, that was so helpful.
Maybe go troll somewhere else?

I was serious, Honda doesn't care. Time to look at other brands. I have 30 years experience selling, fixing and working for Honda. When I tell you that Honda doesn't care, I speak from experience.

 

[toddvdh]

3,000 miles is pretty low for a 2018. There are several 20,000 mile talons and pioneers on here.

I would just do the standard checks. See where mud is crammed into, major scratches or cracks in the body, scratched up rims, ect that would tell you how they treated it. Just remember you are buying a used machine, so some scratches are normal, but you might be able to use them as a bargining point.

And check that the a-arms aren't bent.........per a recent thread on here about a used pioneer......

I like to check the oil, just to look at the level and color of it. The oil dipstick is kind of a pain to get to under the rear floorboards. Other that that I just ask basic questions to get a feel for how the owner cared for it.

I have a 2020 pioneer i bought new and a 2019 talon I bought used. They have both been very good to me.

Eta: One more thing, you should go look at it in person before you make an offer. I know when I sell stuff I won't drop price over the phone when they ask "how low will you go?" That drives me crazy with them never having seen the machine. I will drop price if someone shows up, points out a few flaws, and offers cash on the spot as long as it isn't crazy low. It is a hot market right now though.

 

[toddvdh]

I like my 2 Hondas way better than the Rangers I had. I wasn't a fan of the cvt needing lots of rpms to move.

 

[Jerryg]

I like my 2 Hondas way better than the Rangers I had. I wasn't a fan of the cvt needing lots of rpms to move.

The Rangers look cool but I don't think I would ever buy one.

 

[Fenahs]

I was serious, Honda doesn't care. Time to look at other brands. I have 30 years experience selling, fixing and working for Honda. When I tell you that Honda doesn't care, I speak from experience.

I was serious too. If you don’t like Hondas that’s fine, go and join another site. Don’t just stick around here to be a troll.

 

[Jerryg]

I was serious too. If you don’t like Hondas that’s fine, go and join another site. Don’t just stick around here to be a troll.

Who died and made you the boss? NY attitude with 6 posts, why don't you find another site.

If you don't like my advice that is fine, go buy a used beat up Pioneer instead of a brand new Yamaha.

 

[Fenahs]

3,000 miles is pretty low for a 2018. There are several 20,000 mile talons and pioneers on here.

I would just do the standard checks. See where mud is crammed into, major scratches or cracks in the body, scratched up rims, ect that would tell you how they treated it. Just remember you are buying a used machine, so some scratches are normal, but you might be able to use them as a bargining point.

And check that the a-arms aren't bent.........per a recent thread on here about a used pioneer......

I like to check the oil, just to look at the level and color of it. The oil dipstick is kind of a pain to get to under the rear floorboards. Other that that I just ask basic questions to get a feel for how the owner cared for it.

I have a 2020 pioneer i bought new and a 2019 talon I bought used. They have both been very good to me.

Eta: One more thing, you should go look at it in person before you make an offer. I know when I sell stuff I won't drop price over the phone when they ask "how low will you go?" That drives me crazy with them never having seen the machine. I will drop price if someone shows up, points out a few flaws, and offers cash on the spot as long as it isn't crazy low. It is a hot market right now though.

Thank you!

 

[rickoshea]

Who died and made you the boss? NY attitude with 6 posts, why don't you find another site.

If you don't like may advice that is fine, go buy a used beat up Pioneer instead of a brand new Yamaha.

🤣 🤣 🤣 in all fairness,he never asked you at all about yamaha wolverines.the topic is Honda Pioneers.you know,being a HONDA forum.and you tell him to go find another site??i'd tell you to get stuffed too.

 

[Jerryg]

🤣 🤣 🤣 in all fairness,he never asked you at all about yamaha wolverines.the topic is Honda Pioneers.you know,being a HONDA forum.and you tell him to go find another site??i'd tell you to get stuffed too.

The title is new or used, I suggested new.

I understand this is a Honda forum, I was looking to buy a Honda for a year.

Faced with the same dilema, I chose a new Yamaha. It was a valid option.

 

[Fenahs]

Who died and made you the boss? NY attitude with 6 posts, why don't you find another site.

If you don't like may advice that is fine, go buy a used beat up Pioneer instead of a brand new Yamaha.

“Located on the upper Delaware River, Milford PA is part of the New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA Metropolitan Statistical Area, as well as the larger New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area.”, so you practically live in NYC? I guess you’re just not used to Upstate attitude. We are nicer and more respectful up here. By the way, you said you “have 30 years experience selling, fixing and working for Honda” but did you ever own a Honda SXS? Or did you leave Honda and go to work at a Yamaha dealer? I’m kidding, either way I don’t care and you can comment all you like. I won’t respond, I’ll just continue to report you to “the boss”.

 

[Jerryg]

“Located on the upper Delaware River, Milford PA is part of the New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA Metropolitan Statistical Area, as well as the larger New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area.”, so you practically live in NYC? I guess you’re just not used to Upstate attitude. We are nicer and more respectful up here. By the way, you said you “have 30 years experience selling, fixing and working for Honda” but did you ever own a Honda SXS? Or did you leave Honda and go to work at a Yamaha dealer? I’m kidding, either way I don’t care and you can comment all you like. I won’t respond, I’ll just continue to report you to “the boss”.

Great, so you are a squealer too, geez, great to have you aboard.

 

[Fenahs]

The title is new or used, I suggested new.

I understand this is a Honda forum, I was looking to buy a Honda for a year.

Faced with the same dilema, I chose a new Yamaha. It was a valid option.

Wait, up above you said you worked for Honda for 30 years, now you were looking at buying one for a year?

 

[Jerryg]

Wait, up above you said you worked for Honda for 30 years, now you were looking at buying one for a year?

Sorry, I don't answer squealers........

 

[Backwoods]

“Located on the upper Delaware River, Milford PA is part of the New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA Metropolitan Statistical Area, as well as the larger New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA Combined Statistical Area.”, so you practically live in NYC? I guess you’re just not used to Upstate attitude. We are nicer and more respectful up here. By the way, you said you “have 30 years experience selling, fixing and working for Honda” but did you ever own a Honda SXS? Or did you leave Honda and go to work at a Yamaha dealer? I’m kidding, either way I don’t care and you can comment all you like. I won’t respond, I’ll just continue to report you to “the boss”.

Squealer that's sounds about right I don't have a dog in this fight but don't ask for advice then b**** about what you get.

 

[toddvdh]

Holy s*** show. Alright, we can settle this by each of you telling us who you voted for…….😈

 

[Backwoods]

Maybe you should get a 🌈 Polaris 🌈🤣🤣

 

[toddvdh]

Anyway……The pioneers really don’t have anything specific that goes wrong with them.

Most stuff breaks from driver “errors”.