P1000 Need help with 2019 p1000

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My p1000 LE is showing a code 52 and will not shift from first gear. I assume that is limp mode. I had asked for help before and the pcm was suggested. My problem is I can/t find the pcm. I am looking under the drivers seat and have removed all the panels including the seat back, floor boards etc. Can anyone tell me where I should be looking.
Thanks for your help and beset wishes.
 
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Under the seat drivers side where u would put the aftermarket storage container. Should have a few giant molex connectors coming out of it
 
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Have read of at least 3 different code 52 with rodent chewed wires.
here was one
"My chewed wire was under the driver seat. Three connectors mounted up right next to the dust guards. Terrible location to work, but super happy it was a cheap and easy fix."
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read of one with neutral safety switch
" pulled the neutral switch, cleaned it with some contact cleaner and replaced it, good to go."
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and one with a wire connection problem
"neutral switch small wire cap kept popping off. Causes it to go into limp mode. My problem was under seat passenger side harness going to neutral switch."
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Have a good day
 
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ECU is left box.
Fan control box center.
Rectifier box is right. 25e9317378ebb970f7931d76ca9c6ba3

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Remington, do I need to remove the storate container box, is it underneath? Otherwise there is nothing there.
Iowa, thanks I am attempting to follow up on that.
Hondasxs, I can find nothing that looks like that under the drivers seat. Do I need to remove the storage compartment?
Apologies, I am very new to working on these. I am grateful for your help.
 
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Remington, do I need to remove the storate container box, is it underneath? Otherwise there is nothing there.
Iowa, thanks I am attempting to follow up on that.
Hondasxs, I can find nothing that looks like that under the drivers seat. Do I need to remove the storage compartment?
Apologies, I am very new to working on these. I am grateful for your help.
Yes, remove storage container.
 
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Remington, do I need to remove the storate container box, is it underneath? Otherwise there is nothing there.
Iowa, thanks I am attempting to follow up on that.
Hondasxs, I can find nothing that looks like that under the drivers seat. Do I need to remove the storage compartment?
Apologies, I am very new to working on these. I am grateful for your help.
Unplug the 3 connectors. When I had code 52, the middle connector had mud in it. Be careful and don't break the tabs like I did on 1 of them.
 
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Remington, do I need to remove the storate container box, is it underneath? Otherwise there is nothing there.
Iowa, thanks I am attempting to follow up on that.
Hondasxs, I can find nothing that looks like that under the drivers seat. Do I need to remove the storage compartment?
Apologies, I am very new to working on these. I am grateful for your help.
Sorry bro, I didnt know you asked me a question, you didnt tag me so I didnt know. Your new to this too lol. Next time use @ at the beginning of a name like @golfer1 to tag them so they get a notice.

Ok, I know this will sound redundant but if u have the seat off and can take a few pics, that will be a whole lot easier to pin point it for you. If u need help with that just ask.
 
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Thank you Remington I will remove the storage container tomorrow. Thanks for the info on how to tag. I will take some pics as I go.
Best wishes to you and all.
 
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It'd probably not the pcm, the neutral switches are known to fail.
I bought the neutral switch when i was getting code 52. After I got the machine home , i cleaned that dirty plug on the pcm and zip tied it because I broke the tab, it never happened again. So I've got a neutral switch if I ever need it in the future.
 
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@TripleB I sent you a conversation message.
A little update.
1. It may very well be the neutral switch. Am trying to check it out further.
2. A little update: A: Gear indicator does not register on the display.
B: The AT/MT/Sport switch does not work at all and does not show on the display.
C. There is a Low indicator on the display which I believe indicates low range.
D. The shift indicator lights all work.
E. Motor seems to run rich especially at idle. Motor lopes, seems to go away as
warms up.
This is all new to me so please share any thoughts you have. By the way, I uncovered the PCM and am getting down to the neutral switch.
 
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Code 52 causes the engine to act weird at idle, im assuming it's because it doesn't know its in Neutral so it freaks out.

The neutral switch that is indicating to be faulty is not the sub trans neutral, it's the internal 6 speed transmission neutral.
 
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Code 52 causes the engine to act weird at idle, im assuming it's because it doesn't know its in Neutral so it freaks out.

The neutral switch that is indicating to be faulty is not the sub trans neutral, it's the internal 6 speed transmission neutral.
What is neutral exactly in the 6 sp. tranny? How and when is it utilized? Or Is it just used to tell the trans the sub trans is in neutral and not to engage clutches?
 
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What is neutral exactly in the 6 sp. tranny? How and when is it utilized? Or Is it just used to tell the trans the sub trans is in neutral and not to engage clutches?

That switch is engaged by the shift drum inside the engine. It's there so the pcm can know when the 6 speed transmission is in neutral and not engaged.
 
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The neutral switch that is indicating to be faulty is not the sub trans neutral, it's the internal 6 speed transmission neutral.

Is this a major job to replace or is on the outside of the case.
Can you suggest where I should look for it.
Is there a way to test it.
My manual only shows one neutral switch. Could that be because its an LE model.
 
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Good morning
Probably an old question, but?
Best recommendation for the primary battery for
2018 Pioneer 1000-5 .?
Thank you
 
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Good morning
Probably an old question, but?
Best recommendation for the primary battery for
2018 Pioneer 1000-5 .?
Thank you

Spend $27 more and get free shipping. I always add some oil filters or something else I know I will use in the future to get the free shipping.

 
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TripleB: Battery is showing 12.8v so I have not considered it.
 
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