Talon Guess the Honda Talon Pricing GAME - Prerelease

[Smitty335]

Ok, then I’ll say the wildcat xx and the new maverick sport are looking nice.

The Havoc isn't to shabby either for a work/play rig!

 

[Admin]

 

[Plumber32]

The Havoc isn't to shabby either for a work/play rig!

My buddy that rides with me all the time just bought the havoc x. Sold his wildcat after the overland adventure. Hasn't had it out yet.

 

[Smitty335]

My buddy that rides with me all the time just bought the havoc x. Sold his wildcat after the overland adventure. Hasn't had it out yet.

Tell us more.

 

[Plumber32]

Tell us more.

Hasn't even picked it up yet sitting in showroom until all options purchased show up.

 

[Smitty335]

Hasn't even picked it up yet sitting in showroom until all options purchased show up.

I looked at one a few months ago, it's got the Pioneer beat, except for the extra seating in the back.

 

[HondaTech]

I looked at one a few months ago, it's got the Pioneer beat, except for the extra seating in the back.

Seems like their not much better than the Pioneer, had a clutch recall too ; )

 

[Smitty335]

Seems like their not much better than the Pioneer, had a clutch recall too ; )

I thought they were a belt drive?

 

[JTW]

I thought they were a belt drive?

Seriously??? They have clutches too..

 

[CTDpower]

damn yall... this is what i came on here to do... figured it was price is right rules.. ill bet 10,000 for 3 link and 15,500 for 4 link

Realistically if they want to be competitive in the market I think the 60/64" would need to be $15000 or less and the 72" would need to be <$20k

I would love a sport model... but there are some other contenders out there right now that are keeping things interesting.

100% agree with this. I was just riding over the summer with a guy who bought a brand new RZR XP 1000, and I think he said he paid 14000 for it. I would say the the Talon needs to be able to be bought somewhere in that range, otherwise there will be too many people still buying rzrs.

 

[HondaTech]

100% agree with this. I was just riding over the summer with a guy who bought a brand new RZR XP 1000, and I think he said he paid 14000 for it. I would say the the Talon needs to be able to be bought somewhere in that range, otherwise there will be too many people still buying rzrs.

That's way too cheap, dealers are having to dump RZRs because they've flooded the market.

Theres no way hell the Tallon will be 14k, even if Honda did people would still try to drag dealers down to 12 or 10. Dream on if you think a sport SXS that's serious will ever be under 18k.

Besides if this thing is what its suppose to be, the RZR will be long forgotten in a few years. People are tired of fixing junk time and time again.

 

[Dragon21]

That's way too cheap, dealers are having to dump RZRs because they've flooded the market.

Theres no way hell the Tallon will be 14k, even if Honda did people would still try to drag dealers down to 12 or 10. Dream on if you think a sport SXS that's serious will ever be under 18k.

Besides if this thing is what its suppose to be, the RZR will be long forgotten in a few years. People are tired of fixing junk time and time again.

I would think a 60" would need to be around 15-16 if they want to be competitive and try to start taking market share. People are more worried about pinching pennies and not getting what they dont think they need... heck look how many of us bought the pioneer 700 and sold it after 6 months, We were trying to be cheap. Honda is also so late to the game with the sport that Canam and Polaris have a huge following and have prices in that range. Enough people try to save money on base models, no power steering, etc. For 18k and a 60" SXS, it better be something special. This is assuming its 60" which would play into the Canam Sport and Rzr 900 market (which some trails are limited to 60" so i would assume they would pick this dimension)

 

[JACKAL]

That's way too cheap, dealers are having to dump RZRs because they've flooded the market.

Theres no way hell the Tallon will be 14k, even if Honda did people would still try to drag dealers down to 12 or 10. Dream on if you think a sport SXS that's serious will ever be under 18k.

Besides if this thing is what its suppose to be, the RZR will be long forgotten in a few years. People are tired of fixing junk time and time again.

That's the way I see it too. The biggest problem with Honda SXS is people fix them until they break. Case in point I spent probably $6k in addons for my 2016 P1K thinking that's what I needed to run in mountains. Turns out, the lift kit, big tires, etc. all just proved too much for the parts I didn't upgrade (axles, clutch, etc.) Ditched the big tires and lift and no issues, also 2018 P1K LE added only roof and windshield, going on 3K miles no issues whatsoever and go everywhere I did with the other machine with all the extra crap, I thought I would need. Honda puts a lot of thought into these machines, save for a few issues since corrected every thing else is human assembled error.

 

[Dragon21]

That's the way I see it too. The biggest problem with Honda SXS is people fix them until they break. Case in point I spent probably $6k in addons for my 2016 P1K thinking that's what I needed to run in mountains. Turns out, the lift kit, big tires, etc. all just proved too much for the parts I didn't upgrade (axles, clutch, etc.) Ditched the big tires and lift and no issues, also 2018 P1K LE added only roof and windshield, going on 3K miles no issues whatsoever and go everywhere I did with the other machine with all the extra crap, I thought I would need. Honda puts a lot of thought into these machines, save for a few issues since corrected every thing else is human assembled error.

While I haven't had a ton of issues, I have defiantly learned that its better to buy a machines thats meant for how you want to ride, then buy a machine and try to modify it to how you want to ride. My next ride will be something thats made for my riding style and hopefully just need the basic add ones (roof, windshield, etc).

 

[JACKAL]

I would think a 60" would need to be around 15-16 if they want to be competitive and try to start taking market share. People are more worried about pinching pennies and not getting what they dont think they need... heck look how many of us bought the pioneer 700 and sold it after 6 months, We were trying to be cheap. Honda is also so late to the game with the sport that Canam and Polaris have a huge following and have prices in that range. Enough people try to save money on base models, no power steering, etc. For 18k and a 60" SXS, it better be something special. This is assuming its 60" which would play into the Canam Sport and Rzr 900 market (which some trails are limited to 60" so i would assume they would pick this dimension)

What kills me is the people who try to cheap out no EPS etc. But then you see them with $600 stereo, $400 Yeti cooler in back, and $300 led whips that add zero benefit to the machine handling etc. Cracks me up.

 

[Dragon21]

What kills me is the people who try to cheap out no EPS etc. But then you see them with $600 stereo, $400 Yeti cooler in back, and $300 led whips that add zero benefit to the machine handling etc. Cracks me up.

Hey hey, that was me, except the 100 radio, 50 ozark trail, and cheap o light bar. But I had never had power steering until my 1000 so didnt know what I was missing. Now I wouldnt get something without it.

 

[JACKAL]

Hey hey, that was me, except the 100 radio, 50 ozark trail, and cheap o light bar. But I had never had power steering until my 1000 so didnt know what I was missing. Now I wouldnt get something without it.

I still think the Talon will be at least $21,600 MSRP and wouldn't be shocked if it listed for $23k. That doesn't mean it will be the street price. For example just screenshot this 2018 LE lists for $21,899 but can be bought for under $17,700 that's over $3200 off MSRP so I wouldn't get discouraged by list prices, just got to do your due diligence to buy a machine at the right price.

At the same notion, here is what the Talon is up against best guess wise, the RZR Turbo 1000 with 168hp and 18" of suspension, while not the pinnacle of the sport models, a respectable unit at least spec and price wise up front. The real kicker is what's the total cost of ownership over 36 months and 5000 miles for a Honda Talon vs. a Polaris RZR?

 

[Dragon21]

There is also Supposed to be 2 versions. I can see the 5 link going for 20+, but I would assume their lower end version would start down near 15-16 to help gain market share.

 

[JACKAL]

I wonder if they got their $22,000 worth in the 23 miles it lasted.

 

[CumminsPusher]

I still think the Talon will be at least $21,600 MSRP and wouldn't be shocked if it listed for $23k. That doesn't mean it will be the street price. For example just screenshot this 2018 LE lists for $21,899 but can be bought for under $17,700 that's over $3200 off MSRP so I wouldn't get discouraged by list prices, just got to do your due diligence to buy a machine at the right price.

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At the same notion, here is what the Talon is up against best guess wise, the RZR Turbo 1000 with 168hp and 18" of suspension, while not the pinnacle of the sport models, a respectable unit at least spec and price wise up front. The real kicker is what's the total cost of ownership over 36 months and 5000 miles for a Honda Talon vs. a Polaris RZR?

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That’s not what Talon will be compared to being the turbo model. You’re talking 60 more horse from upper model. That’s what I’m worried about as well is price point. I wouldn’t personally compare the RZR in any level. A more accurate comparison would be the Yamaha. Then you have a couple closer in power and dependability. I think for most those are the two it’ll boil down to if they don’t need maximum power, shiny decals and a parking spot inside the dealership.

 

[JACKAL]

That’s not what Talon will be compared to being the turbo model. You’re talking 60 more horse from upper model. That’s what I’m worried about as well is price point. I wouldn’t personally compare the RZR in any level. A more accurate comparison would be the Yamaha. Then you have a couple closer in power and dependability. I think for most those are the two it’ll boil down to if they don’t need maximum power, shiny decals and a parking spot inside the dealership.

I agree the Yamaha YXZ 1000r SS is the direct target Honda is aiming for machine wise. But knocking off the market giant cannibalizing Polaris sales is where the money is at. Go for the guy with 45% market share, not the one with 9%.