Confirmed HVAC coming soon.. LEAKED PHOTOS - Pioneer 1000.

[Hello_Darkness]

How could you say the Honda HVAC will be inadequate, when it isn't even offered yet? My NorthStar is hot inside at 90 degrees as they say they will only keep it 15 Degrees cooler than the outside temp.

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[Admin]

 

[JACKAL]

Jon Doe may or may not have insider information that may or may not be real

And is the only one on here subpoenaed by Honda for alleged Trade Secrets violations.

 

[ChadD]

And is the only one on here subpoenaed by Honda for alleged Trade Secrets violations.

Was DJbam involved
#NTC

 

[Rayger143]

Just gonna say a/c in an sxs is dumb imo.

 

[hondabob]

Honda has been testing Polaris and Canam for several years. With their automotive experience I expect they will have a much better
A/C system and probably with a large fan for low-speed driving and idling. I did a lot of motorcycle testing for Honda but that was 35 years ago. My buddy bought the 1st Polaris. It was ok in the rain and on pavement. Polaris has had the dust problem for several years. Their 2025 model is finally fixed.

 

[Hello_Darkness]

Honda has been testing Polaris and Canam for several years. With their automotive experience I expect they will have a much better
A/C system and probably with a large fan for low-speed driving and idling. I did a lot of motorcycle testing for Honda but that was 35 years ago. My buddy bought the 1st Polaris. It was ok in the rain and on pavement. Polaris has had the dust problem for several years. Their 2025 model is finally fixed.

They've had 10 years to figure out door bushings, I don't expect much.

 

[DG Rider]

They've had 10 years to figure out door bushings, I don't expect much.

 

[JACKAL]

First spy shot of how Honda is implementing the AC compressor......

 

[Remington]

A/C system and probably with a large fan for low-speed driving and idling

BLAHAHAHAHAHAHDJDKEIDNSK…

That sir will NEVER happen! Deff not on a SXS! You will be reduced to the power of a Big Wheel with all that crap on there!

non HVAC folks have no clue what it takes to operate an AC. They are power killers and need “clean AF” air no dust, no mud to operate at ANY efficiency and a SXS is gonna be hard to do this with 90% of riders, This isn't an automobile. The engineering happening on this thread has been quite comical to read to say the least. but what do I know? Im just and HVAC texh
Keep it going

 

[ChadD]

BLAHAHAHAHAHAHDJDKEIDNSK…

That sir will NEVER happen! Deff not on a SXS! You will be reduced to the power of a Big Wheel with all that crap on there!

non HVAC folks have no clue what it takes to operate an AC. They are power killers and need “clean AF” air no dust, no mud to operate at ANY efficiency and a SXS is gonna be hard to do this with 90% of riders, This isn't an automobile. The engineering happening on this thread has been quite comical to read to say the least. but what do I know? Im just and HVAC texh
Keep it going

Debbie Downer

 

[Remington]

Debbie Downer

No, butthurt maker

I mean its gonna work, just dont expect performance from the sxs or reliability from the AC. To me, Thats a major dick in the dirt.

 

[Vikes79]

First spy shot of how Honda is implementing the AC compressor......


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If it works is it wrong?

 

[hondabob]

If the mud, dust, etc. is a problem during a few years of testing, I expect to see the condenser and radiator up high in the back or at least the condenser. I installed A/C on my brother's truck 50 years ago and forgot everything I knew about doing it. Polaris and Canam have had lots of A/C failures, and I expect Honda had them fail in testing too. One thing is a for sure I will be getting one when they are available. I hate to buy a first year anything but I'm too old to wait on anything and I trust Honda. You're really not old until your kids are drawing their SS money.

 

[ofrcboy]

HondaSxS.com has obtained leaked photos revealing the HVAC system that Honda plans to release in the upcoming year. Unfortunately, it appears that the beloved Pioneer may be getting a belt, although some information suggests that the compressor may be shaft-driven, contrary to what the images display.

The exact release date is still unknown, but it is highly likely that it will be announced next year. Our best estimate is for a 2025 model release, as Honda typically unveils at least one SxS update each year, and this seems to be it.

However, this update will only be significant if Honda also delivers improvements to a fully enclosed cab system. We all know that the previous enclosures have been quite inadequate.

There is an upcoming dealer redline announcement. Cross your fingers this is it.

Thoughts?
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Can someone tell me more about these pictures? I'm not sure what I'm looking as far as HVAC system

 

[Remington]

Can someone tell me more about these pictures? I'm not sure what I'm looking as far as HVAC system

Well you have a condenser that has the compressor that compresses the refrigerant to an evaporator and fan blows against the evaporator for cooling. The condenser that has a coil itself called the “condenser coil” also needs to have a fan to cool the hot gas of the refrigerant cycle so it dosnt boil coming back to the compressor thus causing no to poor cooling or worse, catastrophic compressor failure. They will also be equipped with a high and a low ambient pressure switch.

In the pics its difficult to tell exactly how they have it configured cuz the cycle and the parts are not a labeled legend with the numbers, but it looks as if the evap coil and fan is the small box at the front under the dash and the compressor is located where the pully and belt is.
A compressor either needs 110 to 240v or a pulley/clutch system to make it work. Now you know why it takes alot of elect power and HP to make one operate effective and efficiently.

 

[Rayger143]

I’m a refrigeration tech. Cooling the condenser is where this will fail. Improperly cooled condenser causes improper pressures which cause poor cooling and strain on other components.

 

[Remington]

I’m a refrigeration tech. Cooling the condenser is where this will fail. Improperly cooled condenser causes improper pressures which cause poor cooling and strain on other components.

I didnt know you were a fellow fozdean gas smeller?
Yes, you summed it up a little simpler, less detail than I.

 

[Hello_Darkness]

If the mud, dust, etc. is a problem during a few years of testing, I expect to see the condenser and radiator up high in the back or at least the condenser. I installed A/C on my brother's truck 50 years ago and forgot everything I knew about doing it. Polaris and Canam have had lots of A/C failures, and I expect Honda had them fail in testing too. One thing is a for sure I will be getting one when they are available. I hate to buy a first year anything but I'm too old to wait on anything and I trust Honda. You're really not old until your kids are drawing their SS money.

They still haven't figured out door bushings

 

[GRANITE]

I'm vehicle shopping myself and unsure as to what direction I will go. I've owned all brands except CF MOTO and many in my area road ride often with Polaris Expedition/Rangers Northstar and CA limiteds...They are pretty awesome for road riding. But take it offroad and that's another story. My brother has a newer Ranger NS and its great for keeping you warm and cool but cab isn't sealed even with a fully glass cab on it...

 

[Rayger143]

I'm vehicle shopping myself and unsure as to what direction I will go. I've owned all brands except CF MOTO and many in my area road ride often with Polaris Expedition/Rangers Northstar and CA limiteds...They are pretty awesome for road riding. But take it offroad and that's another story. My brother has a newer Ranger NS and its great for keeping you warm and cool but cab isn't sealed even with a fully glass cab on it...

I’m stuck between a Talon or a P5 myself