CANCELLED - TWRA Public Hearing on OHV Permit Increases

[NTCPrezJB]

I have yet to finalize my $2500 reservation for TO '24. Just sayin' . . .

I can’t say that I blame you.

 

[Admin]

 

[Scoop]

Maybe we get @Ridinfool to write up a basic letter/email and we can all just add our name to it 👍

Dear Mr. Vernon,

We accept the fact that we had to sacrifice a whole Saturday in detention for whatever it was we did wrong. But we think you’re crazy for making us write an essay telling you who we think we are.

You see us as you want to see us … in the simplest terms ... in the most convenient definitions.

But what we found out is that each one of us is a brain, and an athlete, and a basket case, a princess, and a criminal.

Does that answer your question?

Sincerely yours,

The Breakfast Club.

 

[Scoop]

Here is the email I am sending and will be stating in person at the hearing, its a balanced measure that won't punish families if seriously considered.

Tennessee Fish and Wildlife Commission

RE: TN Fish and Wildlife Commission / North Cumberland OHV Permit & License Rulemaking Hearing

Dear Commissioners, I am writing to voice my sincere concern over the proposed North Cumberland OHV Permits and License Recommendations. I and my family have enjoyed riding ATV’s & OHV’s the North Cumberland WMA region since 2006 and have been a Tennessee resident since 2016, the recreational opportunities in Campbell, Scott, & Anderson counties along with the people and cost of living is what drew me to Tennessee as a permanent resident.

I agree as does the majority of the off-road community that there should be permits / Licenses in place that exclusively support the Wildlife Management Areas which have established trail systems. However, as has been touched on in previous public rulemaking hearings TWRA cannot establish how much of the current license / permit sales are being purchased by the OHV community, the responsibility of this oversight is directly related to the allowance of residents and non-residents to purchase Hunt / Fish combo licenses in weekly or annual fashion along with the $20 WMA use permit, the aforementioned combo is approximately 50% of the true intended High Impact Permit Fees. Couple that 50% reduction in revenue with not knowing if the Hunt Fish combo was for the intended purposes or actually for OHV use diverts the needed funding away from North Cumberland WMA maintenance for erosion and trails.

The correct way to address this would be to require the High Impact License of Fee be paid for every machine on a Weekly or Annual basis per machine, and use these monies exclusively on the North Cumberland WMA areas for maintenance. As is, the proposed Permit License Recommendations would result is a 400% increase for a family of 4 riding in one OHV. For example, since 2016 I have purchased the Hunt / Fish combo with WMA permit for an annual cost of $53 allowing my wife and I the opportunity to enjoy the outdoor and trails. The proposal would change that to $100 each or $200 for a resident couple, this is nearly a 400% increase which places an undue burden on TN residents especially those on a retiree income. We have 7 grandkids that visit and have ridden in the machine with us, adding fees for them as well makes this proposal prohibitively expensive. Please do not punish TN residents and taxpayers this way when 80% of the impact is from non-residents on the trails.

Over 90% of non-residents have been buying one Annual Hunt / Fish combo license with WMA permit for $130 per year, per machine under the proposed fee structure a non-resident family of four would have to pay $940 to ride in one machine (A 723% increase). This would drive away a considerable percentage of riders and negatively impact the tourism dollars they spend locally at campgrounds, stores, and restaurants.

In closing, I respectfully ask the Commission seriously consider a 24-month period of the proposed fees be enacted on a per machine basis instead of per person, reporting publicly each quarter the revenues collected and expenses incurred of the NCWMA’s, and determine after the first 12 months if those OHV Permits & License revenues will adequately address the needs to maintain the North Cumberland WMA’s prior to enacting a per person fee structure. This is still nearly a 200% increase over what TWRA has been collecting, and will properly identify the funds collected for OHV use in NCWMA’s

Sincerely,

Robert Stovall

Excellent! Mine was not as long, but I believe I conveyed most of the points.

 

[TripleB]

You bois have had it too good for too long. Time to pay the piper. Or take you ball(sxs) and go home.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

You bois have had it too good for too long. Time to pay the piper. Or take you ball(sxs) and go home.

Careful…I might move in next door so I can get that in state rate.

 

[JACKAL]

 

[futzin]

Excellent letter.

 

[HondaTech]

Why do i feel like they've already made up their minds and this is all just procedure.

Then in 5 years they'll cry they don't have any tourism anymore and have run outta money.
f***ing idiots

 

[Adam490]

You bois have had it too good for too long. Time to pay the piper. Or take you ball(sxs) and go home.

f***in narc… prob been sending those creek pictures to the man!

 

[Scrappapotamus]

As posted earlier in one of the threads pertaining to this matter, this is the type of letter from someone who resides and depends on all of us showing up. She has a nice gig going down there and we've all put some change in her jar, These types usually support the local political scene and if they've put their money on the correct candidate, they've got a less obstructed path to the decision makers. Hopefully everyone will show their appreciation the next time they're down her way by doing a little business in one of her many endeavors. Thanks for sharing and obviously bending her ear

 

[KyGal83]

Careful…I might move in next door so I can get that in state rate.

Yeah! @TripleB … better get used to my mail showing up at your house. Gonna park my 5th wheel next to your pond and move on in.

 

[TripleB]

Why do i feel like they've already made up their minds and this is all just procedure.

Then in 5 years they'll cry they don't have any tourism anymore and have run outta money.
f***ing idiots

Keep praying

 

[The Green Goat]

I didn't have a chance to write up a letter today, but if I get a minute tomorrow at work, I'll have some AI letter generator type one up for me strongly urging them to reconsider to something more reasonable while simultaneously and covertly slipping something in there about dirty relations I've had with their wives and how the whole board sucks cock for wooden nickels.

I can't wait to see what it comes up with.

Stay tuned...

 

[futzin]

Haven't heard a wooden nickels reference since my dad passed in '02!

Maybe this is why he used to say: Don't take any wood nickels!

He was born in '27; he knew some good ones. Boy, I'll cloud up and rain all over you!

 

[Remington]

Haven't heard a wooden nickels reference since my dad passed in '02!

Maybe this is why he used to say: Don't take any wood nickels!

We have a bar called The Wooden Nickel in Dansville, They have some good food and a good friday night fish fry.

 

[JayPo]

email sent.

 

[KyGal83]

email sent!

 

[Scoop]

We have a bar called The Wooden Nickel in Dansville, They have some good food and a good friday night fish fry.

Save a few nickels for the TWRA board ... 😆

 

[Tramguage1]

We need to get involved.
I don't mind a per/person charge. But not at double the rate of other systems.

To those interested in going.
And if you sign up to speak...
I will cover up to 3 - (2-bed) hotel rooms if need be for Thursday night.

@Hondasxs If you will pay for the rooms, I will book the flights for you and I. We can split a rental car from Nashville.

 

[Hondasxs]

@Hondasxs If you will pay for the rooms, I will book the flights for you and I. We can split a rental car from Nashville.

I will be driving and most likley bring the family for the weekend.

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