P1000 Bearing Grease

[WagginTail]

Sooo, I just got this in the mail (bought it by accident) originally had one like TripleB mentioned in my cart and for some reason ended up buying both 🤦‍♂️
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The 40mm @05Willys linked DOES NOT work, the phucker won't go in 🤬 sorry bud. I guess I have to wait 'till Monday to try the one TripleB linked.

Shucks. I ordered one of these already. Let us know how the next one works

 

[Admin]

 

[Dirtstiffs-1000]

Hmm. I bought that short 40 mm one too .
Never tried it..

 

[P1K5Dave]

I just looked up the invoice for the one I bought from Machined Integrations (works great.)

Pioneer 1000 Over Axle

Variation: MI-OTA-1150-40MM - Over Axle Greaser

SKU: MI-OTA-1150-40MM

It's 40mm, and fits perfectly - so at least that part is right.

 

[highpocket74]

This is what Amsoil recommends for UTV applications.

Water-Washout and Sprayoff Protection
The superior wet-duty performance of AMSOIL Synthetic Water-Resistant Grease is formulated with extra durable cohesive and adhesive chemistry. It holds together when exposed to water and clings tenaciously to metal surfaces when wet, protecting components during prolonged exposure to standing or pressurized water.

 

[05Willys]

Sooo, I just got this in the mail (bought it by accident) originally had one like TripleB mentioned in my cart and for some reason ended up buying both 🤦‍♂️
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The 40mm @05Willys linked DOES NOT work, the phucker won't go in 🤬 sorry bud. I guess I have to wait 'till Monday to try the one TripleB linked.

Thanks for the update. Is the issue with the ID, OD or both? May have to bring mine to work and modify. Or just buy one that works.🤔 Nah, that would make too much sense. LOL

 

[JenElio]

Thanks for the update. Is the issue with the ID, OD or both? May have to bring mine to work and modify. Or just buy one that works.🤔 Nah, that would make too much sense. LOL

The ID is too small, can't get far enough to know if the OD works or not

 

[bumperm]

The ID is too small, can't get far enough to know if the OD works or not

The one I bought, haven't tried yet, is the two O-ring short version and looks like yours. OD is 39.91mm. There are two ID's. The first larger, at entry end, is 28.83mm, while the majority of the inside is 26.60mm.

If you have a caliper handy to measure yours, and/or tell me what the ID should be to fit, I'd appreciate it, so I can "fix" mine in advance of needing it (my machine tools are a ways away at the airport).

It's THIS ONE on eBay for $11.00 w/free shipping. I can't make one for less . . . but if I need to open the inside a bit, I can do that easy.

 

[JenElio]

The one I bought, haven't tried yet, is the two O-ring short version and looks like yours. OD is 39.91mm. There are two ID's. The first larger, at entry end, is 28.83mm, while the majority of the inside is 26.60mm.

If you have a caliper handy to measure yours, and/or tell me what the ID should be to fit, I'd appreciate it, so I can "fix" mine in advance of needing it (my machine tools are a ways away at the airport).

It's THIS ONE on eBay for $11.00 w/free shipping. I can't make one for less . . . but if I need to open the inside a bit, I can do that easy.

Yup, that's the same one I got. I'll try and get exact dimensions in the a.m 👍

 

[Remington]

To the OP……

 

[bumperm]

I use this with my bearing greaserView attachment 311532

One of several greases I use. I've used Mobil 1 products for decades, especially their synthetic oils. Sadly, their grease is uniquely disappointing in how easily the oil drains out of the thickener (separates) and makes a mess. Pick up a grease gun and it dribbles red oil on the floor. I called Mobil tech support years ago and asked them about this. They denied there was any separation problem. But if you search on line, you'll find others experiencing this.

 

[someguy1313]

The one I bought came from Machined Integrations. Nearly twice as much as that ebay unit, though I can't say if it's any better without seeing it closer or trying it.

It works well, though.

So the MI one looks well built but it does look like you need to remove the half shaft to grease. is this correct?

still looking for one that does not require Half Shaft removal and will slide over.

so...

still following.

 

[Dirtstiffs-1000]

Hmm. I bought that short 40 mm one too .
Never tried it..

Sent it to my Polaris riding BIL and he said it fit and worked great. He's a no bs'er so 11 bucks well spent.

 

[ToddACimer]

One of several greases I use. I've used Mobil 1 products for decades, especially their synthetic oils. Sadly, their grease is uniquely disappointing in how easily the oil drains out of the thickener (separates) and makes a mess. Pick up a grease gun and it dribbles red oil on the floor. I called Mobil tech support years ago and asked them about this. They denied there was any separation problem. But if you search on line, you'll find others experiencing this.

This can depend on temperature range and intended use. Grease as a semi solid really offers very little lubrication as it can't flow through bearings and orifices. The oils are the lubricants so I guess I'd say the grease you described is good. One issue with a non flowable grease in a semi sealed bearing like our wheel bearings is the oil needs air to cool. I'd rather have a grease that flows through the bearing and leaves oil in the bearings than a grease that fills the cavity and never dissapates the heat of the bearing.

I prefer a good oil based grease that I can pump through the bearing and flush water out than a thick grease that fills the bearing and cooks them when they get hot.

 

[bumperm]

This can depend on temperature range and intended use. Grease as a semi solid really offers very little lubrication as it can't flow through bearings and orifices. The oils are the lubricants so I guess I'd say the grease you described is good. One issue with a non flowable grease in a semi sealed bearing like our wheel bearings is the oil needs air to cool. I'd rather have a grease that flows through the bearing and leaves oil in the bearings than a grease that fills the cavity and never dissapates the heat of the bearing.

I prefer a good oil based grease that I can pump through the bearing and flush water out than a thick grease that fills the bearing and cooks them when they get hot.

What I am saying is Mobil 1 oil separates from the thickener in *storage* at temperatures between 40F and 80F. It probably separates under some conditions of use as well, though I have no empirical data or evidence of that. I know what greases are supposed to do and have a reasonable clue as to how that is accomplished. The lubricating oil is held in suspension and in place by a thickener. If the thickener doesn't do that, holding the oil where it's needed, and instead allows it to be displaced, slung out, or dribbled out, then the thickener is not doing it job properly and neither is the missing oil.

For reading material re what others have reported on this issue, search <Mobil 1 grease separates>.

One example

 

[P1K5Dave]

So the MI one looks well built but it does look like you need to remove the half shaft to grease. is this correct?

still looking for one that does not require Half Shaft removal and will slide over.

Assuming you're referring to the axle as a half-shaft, it does slide over.

You remove the brake caliper, then the axle nut. Pull the hub, then the greaser goes in over the axle shaft.

 

[someguy1313]

Assuming you're referring to the axle as a half-shaft, it does slide over.

You remove the brake caliper, then the axle nut. Pull the hub, then the greaser goes in over the axle shaft.

Awesome. thank you for the info. the video on the MI site doesn't seem to make that option clear.

for fun and because i don't have enough tools:

I've ordered the one noted in post #5.

Also for fun, ordered a different one.

i'll do a comparison when i can.

40mm Wheel Bearing Greaser Grease Tool For Honda Pioneer 1000 Polaris Ranger 800 | eBay​

Double O-Ring seals to keep the grease inside your bearings, which also spread the inner bearing races apart to allow a gap for the grease to easily flow inside. This grease tool will replenish the grease your bearings need, as well as push out contaminants.
www.ebay.com

and this one.

HONDA PIONEER 1000 ALL 4 WHEEL BEARING GREASER TOOL axle in! - R | eBay​

This fits all 4 wheel bearings on all years of Honda Pioneer 1000! This is the type greaser that only have to remove the wheel and wheel hub to grease the bearings.
www.ebay.com

 

[ToddACimer]

Awesome. thank you for the info. the video on the MI site doesn't seem to make that option clear.

for fun and because i don't have enough tools:

I've ordered the one noted in post #5.

Also for fun, ordered a different one.

i'll do a comparison when i can.

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40mm Wheel Bearing Greaser Grease Tool For Honda Pioneer 1000 Polaris Ranger 800 | eBay​

Double O-Ring seals to keep the grease inside your bearings, which also spread the inner bearing races apart to allow a gap for the grease to easily flow inside. This grease tool will replenish the grease your bearings need, as well as push out contaminants.
www.ebay.com

and this one.

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HONDA PIONEER 1000 ALL 4 WHEEL BEARING GREASER TOOL axle in! - R | eBay​

This fits all 4 wheel bearings on all years of Honda Pioneer 1000! This is the type greaser that only have to remove the wheel and wheel hub to grease the bearings.
www.ebay.com

You'll find the seals are an unnecessary addition. The one without the seals works very well and it's a slip fit into the bearings. You won't find any excess grease on the tool after use

 

[WRFP399]

This is the one I just bought and use on my 2017 Pioneer 1000-5.

For 2016-2018 Honda Pioneer 1000 1000-5 All 4 Wheel Bearing Greaser Tool Axle In | eBay

Type: Wheel Bearing Greaser Tool. Greaser only remove the wheel and wheel hub to grease the bearings. 1X Wheel Bearing Greaser Tool. For Honda Pioneer 1000 1000-5 2016-2018. The spindle and CV axle can stay untouched.

www.ebay.com

This is the grease I use. NLGI #2, Manufacture Number 41150.

Synthetic Grease - Multi-Purpose Lubricant | Super-Lube

Heavy-duty, multi-purpose lubricant synthetic grease with Syncolon® (PTFE) to form a premium lubricant that provides longer life protection against friction, wear, rust and corrosion.

www.super-lube.com

 

[bumperm]

This is the one I just bought and use on my 2017 Pioneer 1000-5.

For 2016-2018 Honda Pioneer 1000 1000-5 All 4 Wheel Bearing Greaser Tool Axle In | eBay

Type: Wheel Bearing Greaser Tool. Greaser only remove the wheel and wheel hub to grease the bearings. 1X Wheel Bearing Greaser Tool. For Honda Pioneer 1000 1000-5 2016-2018. The spindle and CV axle can stay untouched.

www.ebay.com

This is the grease I use. NLGI #2, Manufacture Number 41150.

Synthetic Grease - Multi-Purpose Lubricant | Super-Lube

Heavy-duty, multi-purpose lubricant synthetic grease with Syncolon® (PTFE) to form a premium lubricant that provides longer life protection against friction, wear, rust and corrosion.

www.super-lube.com

I use Super Lube grease on guns and used to use it on glider wing pins. Works very well for those purposes, has a broad temperature range, and importantly, doesn't make a mess or stain hands and stuff like "regular" grease. I don't know how well it would work on wheel bearings though?

 

[WRFP399]

I too use it on firearms. It's a NLGI #2 GC-LB grease that is specifically marketed for wheel bearings by the manufacturer. Seems to be doing fine.

"*GC-LB Wide temperature grease for use in components such as bearings, chassis and universal joints in passenger cars, trucks and other vehicles under mild and
severe duty. This includes vehicles operated under frequent stop-and-go service (buses, taxis, urban police cars, etc.), or under severe braking service (trailer
towing, heavy loading, mountain driving, etc.) (see ASTM D4950)."

https://www.super-lube.com/Content/Images/uploaded/documents/TDS/Technical_Data_Sheet_Multi_Purpose_Grease.pdf