Lots of new footage coming in from the Honda Demo Event in Utah! Makes me want to vacation and ride there.
Oh, AND buy a Talon!
Oh, AND buy a Talon!
Thanks so much for the great demo discussion, Im so glad I put a down payment on the X, should be in sometime in April.Lots of new footage coming in from the Honda Demo Event in Utah! Makes me want to vacation and ride there.
Oh, AND buy a Talon!
He is probably the asshole that stole Honda's thunder releasing the pictures early.I scanned the video to see if I spotted anyone I knew...
@Hondasxs - Question...
Are you like a celebrity out there? Do the other bloggers/youtubers know Hondasxs.com or who you are?
I got to sit in an X & R this morning, the X is very nice and the R is incredible. I got a close look at the A arm brackets and trailing arm brackets, there a lot thicker than the pictures looked like, the frame looks to be a lot stronger than the Pioneers, oil change and air cleaner replacement will be a snap, cock pit was a little low for me, but at 5 foot 6 inches things are usually a little low or high, HA! As far as extra room for switches on the dash panel, didn't see any place, think some one will come up with an overhead console for switch panels. The stock skid plate is a lot better than the Pioneers, but, I would feel better having a real skid plate, gone is the honey comb stick catchers in the front wheel wells, the owner of the dealer ship told me a customer that's in line to buy to buy one of the first Talons came in yesterday and they bolted up some 30 inch tires to check clearance and they fit with no issues, he said 32's probably have issues. @JACKAL The bed area is comparatively small compared to a P1, a smaller ice chest and my grill will fit though! Don't know where you would put a spare, unless you mounted it up high, (bad idea as far as I'm concerned). They have moved most of the weight to the back of the machine, including battery. I think Honda has hit a home run in the Sport S x S market! This is no replacement for our P1, because we use it for more than trail ridding, so it's a trade off? I asked Greg the owner of the dealership what he thought sales would be like on the P1's in the future, he replied strong. There is no other S x S's on the market like the P7-4 and the P1-5 with that wheel base.He is probably the asshole that stole Honda's thunder releasing the pictures early.
I got to sit in an X & R this morning, the X is very nice and the R is incredible. I got a close look at the A arm brackets and trailing arm brackets, there a lot thicker than the pictures looked like, the frame looks to be a lot stronger than the Pioneers, oil change and air cleaner replacement will be a snap, cock pit was a little low for me, but at 5 foot 6 inches things are usually a little low or high, HA! As far as extra room for switches on the dash panel, didn't see any place, think some one will come up with an overhead console for switch panels. The stock skid plate is a lot better than the Pioneers, but, I would feel better having a real skid plate, gone is the honey comb stick catchers in the front wheel wells, the owner of the dealer ship told me a customer that's in line to buy to buy one of the first Talons came in yesterday and they bolted up some 30 inch tires to check clearance and they fit with no issues, he said 32's probably have issues. @JACKAL The bed area is comparatively small compared to a P1, a smaller ice chest and my grill will fit though! Don't know where you would put a spare, unless you mounted it up high, (bad idea as far as I'm concerned). They have moved most of the weight to the back of the machine, including battery. I think Honda has hit a home run in the Sport S x S market! This is no replacement for our P1, because we use it for more than trail ridding, so it's a trade off? I asked Greg the owner of the dealership what he thought sales would be like on the P1's in the future, he replied strong. There is no other S x S's on the market like the P7-4 and the P1-5 with that wheel base.
I don't see the Talon cutting into Pioneer 1000 sales much, as you said the P1K is just about the most versatile machine out there for work and play which can also seat 5 in a pinch. If I had to choose either or, definitely would keep the Pioneer 1000.
Where I see Talon sales cannibalize market share is the disgruntled sport machine owners who have had thier brand x in the shop more than on the trail, or been left busted in BFE ruining one weekend too many.
EXACTLY!I don't see the Talon cutting into Pioneer 1000 sales much, as you said the P1K is just about the most versatile machine out there for work and play which can also seat 5 in a pinch. If I had to choose either or, definitely would keep the Pioneer 1000.
Where I see Talon sales cannibalize market share is the disgruntled sport machine owners who have had thier brand x in the shop more than on the trail, or been left busted in BFE ruining one weekend too many.
I don't see the Talon cutting into Pioneer 1000 sales much, as you said the P1K is just about the most versatile machine out there for work and play which can also seat 5 in a pinch. If I had to choose either or, definitely would keep the Pioneer 1000.
Where I see Talon sales cannibalize market share is the disgruntled sport machine owners who have had thier brand x in the shop more than on the trail, or been left busted in BFE ruining one weekend too many.
My wife says I can only afford one, the pups and she would divorce me if I replaced the P1 with a Talon 2 seat, after looking at the Talon, I think there 4 seat will be a stretch limo model! ????? It is a relief though to find out the bottom isn't going to fall out on the P1, value wise.I think there is a segment of Honda loyal that wanted a sxs and bought the P1000 because it was their best option at the time. Now that the Talon is out there will be some who sell the Pioneer and buy one. There will be others that need the seating or the utility and keep it or keep it and add the Talon to their stable.
I got to sit in an X & R this morning, the X is very nice and the R is incredible. I got a close look at the A arm brackets and trailing arm brackets, there a lot thicker than the pictures looked like, the frame looks to be a lot stronger than the Pioneers, oil change and air cleaner replacement will be a snap, cock pit was a little low for me, but at 5 foot 6 inches things are usually a little low or high, HA! As far as extra room for switches on the dash panel, didn't see any place, think some one will come up with an overhead console for switch panels. The stock skid plate is a lot better than the Pioneers, but, I would feel better having a real skid plate, gone is the honey comb stick catchers in the front wheel wells, the owner of the dealer ship told me a customer that's in line to buy to buy one of the first Talons came in yesterday and they bolted up some 30 inch tires to check clearance and they fit with no issues, he said 32's probably have issues. @JACKAL The bed area is comparatively small compared to a P1, a smaller ice chest and my grill will fit though! Don't know where you would put a spare, unless you mounted it up high, (bad idea as far as I'm concerned). They have moved most of the weight to the back of the machine, including battery. I think Honda has hit a home run in the Sport S x S market! This is no replacement for our P1, because we use it for more than trail ridding, so it's a trade off? I asked Greg the owner of the dealership what he thought sales would be like on the P1's in the future, he replied strong. There is no other S x S's on the market like the P7-4 and the P1-5 with that wheel base.
That's the X isn't it? I was looking at the R mostly. I may have over looked that. I was over whelmed.See switch mounting. View attachment 113463
That's the X isn't it? I was looking at the R mostly.
I was in that segment. I wasn't necessarily aI think there is a segment of Honda loyal that wanted a sxs and bought the P1000 because it was their best option at the time. Now that the Talon is out there will be some who sell the Pioneer and buy one. There will be others that need the seating or the utility and keep it or keep it and add the Talon to their stable.
Thanks for posting pic, I was really wanting to see how the switch panel looked. I also ordered radio so that was a bonus to see in photo.See switch mounting. View attachment 113463
Another YT video from the event (assuming as I haven't watched it yet)...
Ok, I'm going to say it, after seeing the Talon in person, I think it looks better than the Textron Wild Cat! HA!The review should have been X on trail and R in desert. The guy puts together good videos. Also, being a Canadian, should have spent some time on trails with X to demonstrate manuverabilty for our friends north of border.
I agree but he seemed more of a Journalist than a rider. There was no real substance to his review.The review should have been X on trail and R in desert. The guy puts together good videos. Also, being a Canadian, should have spent some time on trails with X to demonstrate manuverabilty for our friends north of border.