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Very good video, thanks for posting.
Pretty damn cool how they replaced airbox with a huge intercooler and put air filter beside it where OEM intake location is.
Lots of good information if you pay attention.
What say you @snuffnwhisky ?
Honda lets it be public less than 24 hours ago about a 165HP ish Turbo kit and lookie here who must feel threatened.......
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Looks good. It is a pretty small turbo so HP will be limited if you wanted to turn it up but there should be no lag at all with it. It should be full boost by 3500 rpm. A smaller turbo is a lot more fun, linear power when trail riding. There will be more companies coming out with turbo kits after the guinea pigs figure out the limitsVery good video, thanks for posting.
Pretty damn cool how they replaced airbox with a huge intercooler and put air filter beside it where OEM intake location is.
Lots of good information if you pay attention.
What say you @snuffnwhisky ?
I agree, getting a good match that doesn't fux up the DCT and shifting correctly is the challenge.Looks good. It is a pretty small turbo so HP will be limited if you wanted to turn it up but there should be no lag at all with it. It should be full boost by 3500 rpm. A smaller turbo is a lot more fun, linear power when trail riding. There will be more companies coming out with turbo kits after the guinea pigs figure out the limits.
From what he was saying in the video, it sounds like there is plenty more power to be had from the kit if you wanted to play with it per the Jackson guys. I would assume they considered the trans when they said that. If not, someone will undoubtedly come up with better clutch pack or clutch cooling package that will allow for it. I'd like one, but being a "Honda Accessory" will probably put a ridiculous price point on it.I agree, getting a good match that doesn't fux up the DCT and shifting correctly is the challenge.
From what he was saying in the video, it sounds like there is plenty more power to be had from the kit if you wanted to play with it per the Jackson guys. I would assume they considered the trans when they said that. If not, someone will undoubtedly come up with better clutch pack or clutch cooling package that will allow for it. I'd like one, but being a "Honda Accessory" will probably put a ridiculous price point on it.
Maybe I can try to justify a Turbo R next year and tell Mama I need two different rigs for different types of riding. R for racing/track and X for trails/mud. I'm sure we can send the kid to a cheaper college somewhere. Maybe she won't be too mad for too long. Maybe.... Haha.
I bet they can budge 20% on that price fairly easily, getting around $4650 range.MSRP of $5799.99 is what they're claiming. Available in the fall. While that is a lot of money, it's competitively priced with other packages from what I understand.
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Can somebody explain what makes a bolt on turbo so pricey? It's literally 1/4 the cost of the vehicle. I'm sure you are paying for the R&D and Honda tax here, but that still seems crazy to me. Guess you've gotta pay to play. I've never looked into adding any sort of forced induction on anything so it's probably just more of my lack of knowledge into everything involved.
Thanks @JACKAL , I guess I was more interested in the technical side of what makes a bolt on turbo kit so expensive?Well speaking very generally and using another vendor for an example. Seizmik makes the side mirrors that are sold as an official accessory on the Talon with an MSRP of $299 while the exact same mirrors can be bought directly under the Seizmik name for $150. It's not uncommon across several industries to have a 100% markup from a vendor direct selling price to a dealer suggested MSRP. The dealership doesn't set that price an can often discount accessories 20-25% and still make a nominal profit on them.
Where they make a killing is Joe Blow comes into the dealership and wants the bestest, fastest, tricked out every option available rig of a given flavor and doesn't bat an eye rolling it all up into one package and finance it with a purchase. Most only care what the monthly payment is and there is enough of those guys who do exactly that are the ones that keep dealers open.
That $5799 bolt on terba kit could likely be bought at a dealer after the new fandimonium wears off for about $4500 or direct from the maker for even less, like $3600 ballpark. Now this is once supply has saturated demand and they aren't selling every single one off the line before it is made.
Thanks @JACKAL , I guess I was more interested in the technical side of what makes a bolt on turbo kit so expensive?
Can somebody explain what makes a bolt on turbo so pricey? It's literally 1/4 the cost of the vehicle. I'm sure you are paying for the R&D and Honda tax here, but that still seems crazy to me. Guess you've gotta pay to play. I've never looked into adding any sort of forced induction on anything so it's probably just more of my lack of knowledge into everything involved.
I'd really like to get to the tuner part and adjust for my 32" tires. It's not bad, but the shift points seem a little weird now. I assume they'll have flashes for all kinds of mods by the time they release it.I would say Jackson Racing has nearly a year (or more) of testing and R&D to make this kit truly OEM quality, the fact it can adjust the ECM to adapt to 28, 30, 32" tires while keeping speedometer and shifting optimal for each size. The quality and time investment in this particular kit is likely far in excess of the others to follow.