Honda Horn Kit?

[digbydog]

Just purchased the Honda Horn kit with the accessory sub harness.....cannot figure out what Honda is talking about when they say to attach the supplied horn switch plugs (2 of them) into the harness.....cannot see a spot to plug in the switch plugs, there are no connectors for the switch! Anyone installed this option? Called Honda and they were of NO help........

 

[Admin]

 

[ohanacreek]

unplug the 12v accessory port under the dash and remove the @18" harness.

The Honda Sub harness plugs in, in its place and the horn kit connects to it.

 

[Lynn]

Alright I knew someone wold have the answer. Way to go Ohanacreek!!

 

[digbydog]

unplug the 12v accessory port under the dash and remove the @18" harness.

The Honda Sub harness plugs in, in its place and the horn kit connects to it.

Oh NO NO NO !!!! Not so fast! I DID purchase the $5.95 accessory sub harness and connected it to the main harness AND the 12v accessory port, that leaves 2 plug ins for the horn sub harness and ONE plug in for the future back up alarm.........In the 2 plug ins on this SAME harness goes the horn sub harness and the other end of this harness (2 plug ins) connects the actual HORN.......so WHERE does the 2 ports for the horn SWITCH plug in ??????? There are NO other plugs in available for it...... Called Honda- NO answer....Has anyone ACTUALLY installed this Honda horn kit? Thanks-

 

[Hondasxs]

Should be like this.

 

[Hondasxs]

Hold on.. let me look some more.

 

[Hondasxs]

I see... The instructions for the 700 horn seem to be missing some details.

What if you wired it like the 500 kit.

 

[Hondasxs]

Let me know if this might work. I will add that info the the 700 horn instructions.

 

[digbydog]

The instructions for the 500 are not the same for the 700 and it will not work......I have read, re-read and re re re-read the instructions so I am quite familiar with them.....I have called Honda, they were useless as it is just a call center!---- Nobody seems to know the answer, not my purchasing dealer either.....I think the mistake is on page 4 of the instructions, step number 10. It says: connect the horn sub assembly to the accessory sub harness with two bulb connections." By doing this, there are NO available connections for the actual horn switch which requires TWO connections..... Tomorrow, when it is daylight, I will try to connect only ONE bulb connection then try to loop in the switch......it is not color coordinated like the other connections unfortunately..... One connection on the actual switch is red and the other is blue....all the other connections are at least color coordinated.... The diagram is also the worst I have ever seen....BAD BAD BAD Honda! Shame on the tech support or lack thereof too! Are you LISTENING or reading??????

 

[Hondasxs]

Ya. I know it's not the same.
I wanted to show how the switch is wired "in line" and would not actually require another plug. I have not seen this kit personally.

I ask. If/when u find a solution to provide the details for other members.

Honda has even removed the horn instructions from there site for the P700.

Sorry I have not been able to help.

 

[Springer]

You might need the Honda auxiliary switch harness. You can find it here

http://powersports.honda.com/documentum/MW01/0SA30-HL3-100.pdf

Now that I look at it, probably not. It only has 4 switches. Light bar, heater, wipers, and aux lights

 

[digbydog]

Ya. I know it's not the same.
I wanted to show how the switch is wired "in line" and would not actually require another plug. I have not seen this kit personally.

I ask. If/when u find a solution to provide the details for other members.

Honda has even removed the horn instructions from there site for the P700.

Sorry I have not been able to help.

Thanks for the quick reply! Appreciate that! Surprised that Honda has removed the instructions because I DID speak to an "understanding" person in the call center just yesterday....he review the instructions with me while I was on the phone and I think he saw the wiring glitch but could not help....perhaps he had something to do with that! I am pretty mechanical and have assembled paper airplanes with better instructions that this horn kit...I am SERIOUS! I have noted that MOST Honda accessory instructions leave a LOT to be desired! Case in point: I recently purchased the Honda front and rear A-arm guards, when installed according to the instructions they were loose and wobbly......to fit the way I FEEL they should I needed to bend ALL the brackets in my vise to snug the fit..... My Honda split windshield was the SAME way....loose loose loose when in the vented mode, I found installing stainless washers made it fit a LOT better....Perhaps aftermarket is the way to go when possible.......disappointing! I am a BIG Honda advocate, own many Honda products, mower, 2 auto's, tiller, etc etc......but this problem takes the cake!

 

[digbydog]

You might need the Honda auxiliary switch harness. You can find it here

http://powersports.honda.com/documentum/MW01/0SA30-HL3-100.pdf

Now that I look at it, probably not. It only has 4 switches. Light bar, heater, wipers, and aux lights

P.S. I HAVE the accessory sub harness as previously stated......the $269 switch/volt meter set up has NOTHING to do with the horn.....

 

[Hondasxs]

Ya. @digbydog
I just want to make sure I understand you fully... As I'm sure we will get this question again and I would like to have a solution.

So.. The following layout will not work?

 

[Hondasxs]

Sorry to ask again. I just want to make sure.
It sucks this is being such a difficult issue.
Thanks so much for your time on this.

Just so you know. Honda hires a 3rd party company to design these accessories. Found that out when we had the heater re-design issue last year.

 

[digbydog]

Ya. @digbydog
I just want to make sure I understand you as well for when I we get asked again.

So.. The following layout will not work?
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THAT is the way I think it should work but that is NOT the way Honda says to connect in the instructions (page # 4 of 5 and step # 10 & #11 which are quite ambiguous........I will try your diagram tomorrow.....I took the whole damn wiring OUT of the machine and have it on my chair side table....I have untaped and re-taped EVERY connection in hopes that Honda had buried the connectors which they did not! The diagram makes no sense and has arrows pointing to things which do not exist so on my own intuition I decided to manipulate the plug-ins and I came up with exactly what you suggested......I'll plug it all in tomorrow for about the 5th time.....I'm getting quite good and getting my hands back in the front compartment to disconnect/reconnect the 12v accessory plug-in.....it's quite a tight fit and awkward!

 

[Hondasxs]

Ok.. Great. So there is hope that will work like above.
Get a test light after it before you hook the horn up. Hate to fry it with reverse polarity or something.
If it works. I will redesign my drawing for future questions. lol.

Thanks.

 

[digbydog]

THAT is the way I think it should work but that is NOT the way Honda says to connect in the instructions (page # 4 of 5 and step # 10 & #11 which are quite ambiguous........I will try your diagram tomorrow.....I took the whole damn wiring OUT of the machine and have it on my chair side table....I have untaped and re-taped EVERY connection in hopes that Honda had buried the connectors which they did not! The diagram makes no sense and has arrows pointing to things which do not exist so on my own intuition I decided to manipulate the plug-ins and I came up with exactly what you suggested......I'll plug it all in tomorrow for about the 5th time.....I'm getting quite good and getting my hands back in the front compartment to disconnect/reconnect the 12v accessory plug-in.....it's quite a tight fit and awkward!

I want to buy a LED light bar and winch next, I do NOT think I will buy the Honda brands nor fiddle with the $269 wiring accessory kit!

 

[digbydog]

Ok.. Great. So there is hope that will work like above.
Get a test light after it before you hook the horn up. Hate to fry it with reverse polarity or something.
If it works. I will redesign my drawing for future questions. lol.

Thanks.

Your welcome! IF it does work, the connections Honda states in step #10 is INCORRECT! I am AMAZED that NOBODY has chimed in that has ACTUALLY installed this option! Guess NOBODY feels the need to blow the horn !

 

[Hondasxs]

Yep.. Many of us chose to NOT go the Honda switch route. Some of use even took our custom jobs overboard with a 12+ switch panel. lol. Really, why do you need 12+ switches. hahah.. But those guys have there rigs decked out like crazy. Love it.