Firestorm Heater Install.

[Indiana SxS]

I had installed a firestorm heater in another machine back in 2018. When I did my Honda build I did heated seats but learned even enclosed these hot machines get cold inside in the dead of winter. Even though the heated seats are nice it wasn’t where I wanted to be at and now after 3 years of Talon Ownership I motivated myself for the install. I used the firestorm kit but with a rocker switch from inferno as I don’t like the three speed round switches for this setup. I also had to modify my dei heatshield as well. Let there be heat.

 

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[Hello_Darkness]

Do yourself a favor and get rid of the T-fittings.

Put 1 heater hose on the oil cooler nipple and the other on the water pump ripple where the oil cooler hose would normally go.

Yout basically just putting the heater in-line of the system.

Inferno does theirs that way.

 

[Indiana SxS]

I’ll look into it but probably won’t be changing anything. Using the t on the oil cooler in the rear and adding the hose puts the hot coolant from the engine through the heater core. So it’s before the thermostat. Then the other side of the core returns to the return line through a T. It’s as hot as you can handle.

Do yourself a favor and get rid of the T-fittings.

Put 1 heater hose on the oil cooler nipple and the other on the water pump ripple where the oil cooler hose would normally go.

Yout basically just putting the heater in-line of the system.

Inferno does theirs that way.

 

[906UP]

I added a electric coolant pump inline, works awesome to get the heater warmed up quickly, especially on the 4 seater. Think it's an Audi/VW application but you can get them for under $20.

 

[Hello_Darkness]

I’ll look into it but probably won’t be changing anything. Using the t on the oil cooler in the rear and adding the hose puts the hot coolant from the engine through the heater core. So it’s before the thermostat. Then the other side of the core returns to the return line through a T. It’s as hot as you can handle.

The way I described is the same, your just making the heater that oil cooler to water pump hose instead of t-ing into it.

The T just adds more places to leak is the only reason I suggested in

 

[Indiana SxS]

Yes, it looks like your way is adding a connection splice in the rear twice which would be using 4 clamps. Attaching the connection from oil cooler to the new line going up front and then connecting the new return to the hose adaptor that goes down. So that’s 4 clamp vs 6 clamps using the t’s the way I did it. Plus your way has an extra hose running front to back to potentially getting damaged as well which I don’t have. So if the benefits are really just 2 less clamps but again an extra hose from front to back. I don’t think it would be a real benefit to changing anything. Also in my opinion if you do the clamps correctly there is no reason they will ever leak. I did consider the maxstat from ice crusher. With it you don’t run any hoses from the rear to the front, but I couldnt wrap my head around how it could get the same heat as running the hose or your way running two hoses for the hottest coolant.

The way I described is the same, your just making the heater that oil cooler to water pump hose instead of t-ing into it.

The T just adds more places to leak is the only reason I suggested in

 

[Hello_Darkness]

Yes, it looks like your way is adding a connection splice in the rear twice which would be using 4 clamps. Attaching the connection from oil cooler to the new line going up front and then connecting the new return to the hose adaptor that goes down. So that’s 4 clamp vs 6 clamps using the t’s the way I did it. Plus your way has an extra hose running front to back to potentially getting damaged as well which I don’t have. So if the benefits are really just 2 less clamps but again an extra hose from front to back. I don’t think it would be a real benefit to changing anything. Also in my opinion if you do the clamps correctly there is no reason they will ever leak. I did consider the maxstat from ice crusher. With it you don’t run any hoses from the rear to the front, but I couldnt wrap my head around how it could get the same heat as running the hose or your way running two hoses for the hottest coolant.

I'm not sure you understand what I'm describing.

Your removing the hose between the oil cooler outlet and water pump.

The heater hoses then go to those 2 open nipples. The only added clamps would then be the 2 on the heater itself.

I'm just saying over time, clamps are usually the failure points I see from the cooling system. To each their own.

 

[Indiana SxS]

I understand. According to inferno you don’t connect the two new hoses directly to the nipples. The hose you are talking about from cooler to the water pump is basically cut in half. You then run two hoses from the heater core in the front of the machine that’s spliced into the oil cooler hose you just cut in half on both sides that’s 4 clamps for that. So your using 4 clamps total in the rear for the two splices vs my two splices that use 6 total. I am only using 2 more clamps for the way I have it but one less hose running front to back. Have you not done the install you are suggesting to me? Post some photos if I have it wrong. Thanks.

I'm not sure you understand what I'm describing.

Your removing the hose between the oil cooler outlet and water pump.

The heater hoses then go to those 2 open nipples. The only added clamps would then be the 2 on the heater itself.

I'm just saying over time, clamps are usually the failure points I see from the cooling system. To each their own.

 

[Hello_Darkness]

I understand. According to inferno you don’t connect the two new hoses directly to the nipples. The hose you are talking about from cooler to the water pump is basically cut in half. You then run two hoses from the heater core in the front of the machine that’s spliced into the oil cooler hose you just cut in half on both sides that’s 4 clamps for that. So your using 4 clamps total in the rear for the two splices vs my two splices that use 6 total. I am only using 2 more clamps for the way I have it but one less hose running front to back. Have you not done the install you are suggesting to me? Post some photos if I have it wrong. Thanks.

Maybe I'm thinking of something else, I had to go look again and didn't remember the splices they used.

But your correct, either way is about the same number of clamps.

Carry on.

 

[ChadD]

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