P1000 Crawler (Moab) Build/Recommendations

[IrishLad]

Hey guys, looking for some advice for a 2018 1000-5 deluxe “Moab build”. I’ve browsed many threads, but wanted to see what you guys recommended specifically for:

1. Tires (trying to avoid any kind of lift, but will have 1” or 1.5” spacers)
2. Shocks (I’m torn between the 813s and Fox units)
3. Skid plates (leaning towards Ricochet armor)
4. Disconnecting the sway bar (specifically for crawling)?

I’m wide open to any additional thoughts you guys might have. Thanks in advance!

 

[Admin]

 

[ohanacreek]

Hey guys, looking for some advice for a 2018 1000-5 deluxe “Moab build”. I’ve browsed many threads, but wanted to see what you guys recommended specifically for:

1. Tires (trying to avoid any kind of lift, but will have 1” or 1.5” spacers)
2. Shocks (I’m torn between the 813s and Fox units)
3. Skid plates (leaning towards Ricochet armor)
4. Disconnecting the sway bar (specifically for crawling)?

I’m wide open to any additional thoughts you guys might have. Thanks in advance!

Good start there are some $$$$$ super sticky tires @snuffnwhisky will have to chime in what he has. They are so sticky it’s almost cheating.

IGR might be in your future if over30” tires along with front a-arms.

 

[IrishLad]

Good start there are some $$$$$ super sticky tires @snuffnwhisky will have to chime in what he has. They are so sticky it’s almost cheating.

IGR might be in your future if over30” tires along with front a-arms.

IGR?

 

[JTW]

 

[JTW]

IGR?

Internal gear reduction... drops the gearing 25%

 

[ohanacreek]

IGR?

Internal Gear Reduction

Unless you’re dead set on 32” tires it’s not just the IGR there are 3 speed sensors you have to recalibrate and a solenoid that has to be modified.

 

[IrishLad]

Internal Gear Reduction

Unless you’re dead set on 32” tires it’s not just the IGR there are 3 speed sensors you have to recalibrate and a solenoid that has to be modified.

Hmm... That sounds well beyond my skill set. Maybe in the future! Thanks for the feedback!

 

[IrishLad]

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Sweet rig and nice shots! Did you disconnect the rear sway bar? Which tires are you running there?

 

[JTW]

Sweet rig and nice shots! Did you disconnect the rear sway bar? Which tires are you running there?

Yeah.. sway bar is off.. forward and rear a arms, 30” berserker tires, 5-2 beadlock wheels, 1.5” spacer on the front, 2” spacer on the rear.. fox shocks.. and the HL 2.5” lift.

 

[IrishLad]

Yeah.. sway bar is off.. forward and rear a arms, 30” berserker tires, 5-2 beadlock wheels, 1.5” spacer on the front, 2” spacer on the rear.. fox shocks.. and the HL 2.5” lift.

Awesome, thanks!

 

[JTW]

Awesome, thanks!

You’ll find that forward a arms allow you to run most 30” tires... however, the berserkers are bigger than most and require the use of the lift!

 

[Superthrill]

I miss moab....
I would want forward A arms and rear arms to get the extra length. I wish the Pioneer rear axle was further back by about 3 inches. That would really help on ledges.

 

[Dezrik]

I've been to Moab multiple times. First time was completely stock, did great but the stock skid plate was pretty much gone by the end of the trip. My next trip I added, Superatv arms front and rear, 30" bighorns on canam beadlocks, ricochet hybrid skid plates, 1.5" spacer in the front and 2.0 spacer in the rear and added a rack for my cooler and extra storage. The pioneer is impressive in Moab, people I ride with are constantly in awe and the 2 seater rzr guys can't hang. I aimed for no lift because I wanted to keep the low centre of gravity. At the end of the day I wish I had lower gearing. At 47 to 1 crawl ratio (stock) it's not low enough. If you compare that to a canam teryx4 which has 67 to 1 crawl ratio. You can see the need. I'm popping wheelies and the teryx4 is crawling it without lifting a tire.

I'd suggest:
Superatv arms front and rear
Skid plates. The ricochet Is nice but some how destroyed two of the skins, I think the 1/2 uhmw skid plates would hold up better.
814 suspension for the extra articulation.
No sway bar, I removed mine completely.
Beadlocks and at least 30s, I kept my air down to 6-8psi



Here's a album with my last Moab trip. Lots of videos to watch.

https://www.facebook.com/dezrik.parks/media_set?set=a.2237367373009892&type=3

 

[JTW]

I've been to Moab multiple times. First time was completely stock, did great but the stock skid plate was pretty much gone by the end of the trip. My next trip I added, Superatv arms front and rear, 30" bighorns on canam beadlocks, ricochet hybrid skid plates, 1.5" spacer in the front and 2.0 spacer in the rear and added a rack for my cooler and extra storage. The pioneer is impressive in Moab, people I ride with are constantly in awe and the 2 seater rzr guys can't hang. I aimed for no lift because I wanted to keep the low centre of gravity. At the end of the day I wish I had lower gearing. At 47 to 1 crawl ratio (stock) it's not low enough. If you compare that to a canam teryx4 which has 67 to 1 crawl ratio. You can see the need. I'm popping wheelies and the teryx4 is crawling it without lifting a tire.

I'd suggest:
Superatv arms front and rear
Skid plates. The ricochet Is nice but some how destroyed two of the skins, I think the 1/2 uhmw skid plates would hold up better.
814 suspension for the extra articulation.
No sway bar, I removed mine completely.
Beadlocks and at least 30s, I kept my air down to 6-8psi



Here's a album with my last Moab trip. Lots of videos to watch.

https://www.facebook.com/dezrik.parks/media_set?set=a.2237367373009892&type=3

Well said!

 

[rodriguez7]

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How does it crawl with those big tires? Do you think you’re slipping the clutches? I really wish Honda would have geared it lower personally!!

 

[IrishLad]

I've been to Moab multiple times. First time was completely stock, did great but the stock skid plate was pretty much gone by the end of the trip. My next trip I added, Superatv arms front and rear, 30" bighorns on canam beadlocks, ricochet hybrid skid plates, 1.5" spacer in the front and 2.0 spacer in the rear and added a rack for my cooler and extra storage. The pioneer is impressive in Moab, people I ride with are constantly in awe and the 2 seater rzr guys can't hang. I aimed for no lift because I wanted to keep the low centre of gravity. At the end of the day I wish I had lower gearing. At 47 to 1 crawl ratio (stock) it's not low enough. If you compare that to a canam teryx4 which has 67 to 1 crawl ratio. You can see the need. I'm popping wheelies and the teryx4 is crawling it without lifting a tire.

I'd suggest:
Superatv arms front and rear
Skid plates. The ricochet Is nice but some how destroyed two of the skins, I think the 1/2 uhmw skid plates would hold up better.
814 suspension for the extra articulation.
No sway bar, I removed mine completely.
Beadlocks and at least 30s, I kept my air down to 6-8psi



Here's a album with my last Moab trip. Lots of videos to watch.

https://www.facebook.com/dezrik.parks/media_set?set=a.2237367373009892&type=3

Very good info, much appreciated!

 

[IrishLad]

Internal Gear Reduction

Unless you’re dead set on 32” tires it’s not just the IGR there are 3 speed sensors you have to recalibrate and a solenoid that has to be modified.

Quick follow up question on this one... Will dealers do the IGR work or is that strictly DIY? Thanks again!

 

[Dezrik]

Quick follow up question on this one... Will dealers do the IGR work or is that strictly DIY? Thanks again!

I'm sure you could find a dealer to do it but it will void warranty

 

[JTW]

It’s mostly a diy... not something you buy through a dealer