Blown motor?

[Bucknasty14]

Have a regularly maintained and well taken care of 2016 1000-5. Only 2500 miles.

So this weekend after about a 60 mile drive. Right toward the end of the drive going 15 thru town, oil light came on and shortly after a loud boom. Towed it home and so far noticed a hole on the top of the engine case by the oil dip stick.. oil on the ground. Dropped it off at the dealer to be worked on... hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

Anyone have a clue what the cost would be on a new motor if that's needed? It's not an easy thing to search for on the net and know what to find... hoping possibly only need a rebuild but who knows right now. I'm freaking out about my injured baby.

 

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[NTCPrezJB]

Have a regularly maintained and well taken care of 2016 1000-5.

So this weekend after about a 90 mile drive. Right toward the end of the drive going 15 thru town, oil light came on and shortly after a loud boom. Towed it home and so far noticed a hole on the top of the engine case by the oil dip stick.. oil on the ground. Dropped it off at the dealer to be worked on... hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

Anyone have a clue what the cost would be on a new motor if that's needed? It's not an easy thing to search for on the net and know what to find... hoping possibly only need a rebuild but who knows right now. I'm freaking out about my injured baby.

A hole in an engine case is going to be far more than a rebuild but I wish you the best of luck.

 

[Alan_Vander]

Have a regularly maintained and well taken care of 2016 1000-5.

So this weekend after about a 90 mile drive. Right toward the end of the drive going 15 thru town, oil light came on and shortly after a loud boom. Towed it home and so far noticed a hole on the top of the engine case by the oil dip stick.. oil on the ground. Dropped it off at the dealer to be worked on... hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

Anyone have a clue what the cost would be on a new motor if that's needed? It's not an easy thing to search for on the net and know what to find... hoping possibly only need a rebuild but who knows right now. I'm freaking out about my injured baby.

i know the 700 goes for about 3-4k for the motor but the trans is included along with oil pump and all. sounds like you slung a rod. which being the oil light came on prior it was probably oil pump which caused it. rebuild for sure with a case and both pistons and connecting rods. if they can do rebuild id go that route . unless you just find a motor for sale. id definitely ask for a quote on both from the mechanic. after they find the cause of it. rebuild on a 700 depending on where your at but if only doing motor side is roughly 1200-1800 depending on the shop. just to give you an idea.

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[CumminsPusher]

Almost sounds like something let loose in the trans. Depending exactly where the hole is there’s a back cover there, might’ve spared the block.

 

[Hondasxs]

There is a crank shaft balancer recall. I forget what years. I will see if I can find it after while.

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[Ridinfool]

Ooohhh dang, sorry bout your luck…😕 a friend of mine has a 16 LE that threw a rod through the bottom of the case, first estimate was 8K plus labor to R&R it. Somehow how took it to a dealer and they where able to get him a new motor installed and got it done under a warranty claim.

 

[HondaTech]

There is a crank shaft balancer recall. I forget what years. I will see if I can find it after while.

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16 only and very few at that.

 

[P1K5Dave]

There's these guys. I remembered someone linking to them before. Hope it all works out for you, please let us know when you find out!

2016-2023 Honda Pioneer 1000 Engine

Check out the deal on 2016-2023 Honda Pioneer 1000 Engine at nFLOW

www.nflowmotorsports.com

 

[Farmer]

Are you the original owner?

 

[Bucknasty14]

There's these guys. I remembered someone linking to them before. Hope it all works out for you, please let us know when you find out!

2016-2023 Honda Pioneer 1000 Engine

Check out the deal on 2016-2023 Honda Pioneer 1000 Engine at nFLOW

www.nflowmotorsports.com

That the only link I could find with a full motor. Thanks

Are you the original owner?

No. Third owner. First was a rich guy with airplanes and his own mechanic to work on his stuff. 2nd guy used it around his cabin only and then me

 

[Bucknasty14]

16 only and very few at that.

I assume it would be owners fault if I didn't have it taken care of before failure?

 

[Bucknasty14]

I assume it would be owners fault if I didn't have it taken care of before failure?

I just checked the vin and it doesn't show this in the recall list any how

 

[bumperm]

That the only link I could find with a full motor. Thanks

No. Third owner. First was a rich guy with airplanes and his own mechanic to work on his stuff. 2nd guy used it around his cabin only and then me

Hmm, about 20 years ago I had 5 planes. I did my own work, not being really a "rich guy" to my way of thinking, and 5 planes was too many. Gettin' older, down to just one, the "off road" Aviat Husky in my avatar.

On top of Mt. Siegel in the Pinenut range, Nevada (we try to avoid rock crawling, but can make really impressive leaps and spectacular jumps!).

 

[CumminsPusher]

I assume it would be owners fault if I didn't have it taken care of before failure?

To be completely honest I’m not sure how it’s possible to grenade a p1000 by 2500 miles by owner fault.

 

[HBarlow]

OP, has the P1K5 been serviced on schedule? Any engine modifications:? Were you using OEM Honda oil filters and Honda oil?

 

[Bucknasty14]

OP, has the P1K5 been serviced on schedule? Any engine modifications:? Were you using OEM Honda oil filters and Honda oil?

Yup. Always maintained on schedule and always bought the full honda oem oil change kit

 

[HBarlow]

Yup. Always maintained on schedule and always bought the full honda oem oil change kit

How fast were you driving when it failed? Has the machine been driven at high speed (high rpm operation) for long periods?

I'm not trying to pin blame on you, just trying to eliminate possible causes. Mechanical failures do occur. They are not common to Honda or any new brand name machines but it's not impossible that a piston rod simply fractured due to manufacturing defect.

Did you hear a momentary rod knock before it separated and broke the case?

A tear down inspection may answer a lot of questions.

Could be sudden loss of oil pressure, rod bearing failure, rod cap nuts loosened, or rod fracture. Who knows?

 

[Bucknasty14]

How fast were you driving when it failed? Has the machine been driven at high speed (high rpm operation) for long periods?

I'm not trying to pin blame on you, just trying to eliminate possible causes. Mechanical failures do occur. They are not common to Honda or any new brand name machines but it's not impossible that a piston rod simply fractured due to manufacturing defect.

Did you hear a momentary rod knock before it separated and broke the case?

A tear down inspection may answer a lot of questions.

Could be sudden loss of oil pressure, rod bearing failure, rod cap nuts loosened, or rod fracture. Who knows?

I did a 60ish mile ride during the day all on marked trails where there's really no where to open it up. I was back driving thru town later on going 15 and the oil light came on followed very shortly by the boom. Only time I've really had it up to 55 is driving down the road to the park half mile from my house.

I know you're not trying to pin blame. Either way I have to get it fixed. Just really wanted to see if anyone has dealt with it and try to get some sort of idea of costs. The dealer/service i brought it to said they have never had to do a motor change or rebuild on a 1000 b4 either so it clearly isn't common. They are 2 to 3 weeks out to get it in to tear it down to see what actually happened.

I have sent an inquiry to Honda about it just to see if they have any input cuz 2500 miles isn't s*** for a Honda motor.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

I did a 60ish mile ride during the day all on marked trails where there's really no where to open it up. I was back driving thru town later on going 15 and the oil light came on followed very shortly by the boom. Only time I've really had it up to 55 is driving down the road to the park half mile from my house.

I know you're not trying to pin blame. Either way I have to get it fixed. Just really wanted to see if anyone has dealt with it and try to get some sort of idea of costs. The dealer/service i brought it to said they have never had to do a motor change or rebuild on a 1000 b4 either so it clearly isn't common. They are 2 to 3 weeks out to get it in to tear it down to see what actually happened.

I have sent an inquiry to Honda about it just to see if they have any input cuz 2500 miles isn't s*** for a Honda motor.

Post up some pics of the hole you see in the case.

 

[Bucknasty14]

Post up some pics of the hole you see in the case.

Just to the left there. This is looking into the oil dipstick little door flap